Posts by GLTirebiter

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Hear ye!hear ye!!!!Take notice

by mouthy in

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tomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .

good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.

and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .

Please Forgive My Stupidity, How Do I Register To Vote?

by Sunflower Samurai in

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dear brothers and sisters,.

who votes on this forum for president, local elections, i have never voted in my life.. .

i have served on jurys many times, no conscientious issues there, i know it is up to everyone to come to their own ideas, our "speaker" made me think, why can't i vote, or why should i not vote?

It varies by state (I assume you're in the USA, since you said "president"). Many states now have registration at the Motor Vehice office, where you get a driver's license. Often there wil be registration drives when the deadline approaches, with a table at the supermarket or shopping mall (usually sponsored by whichever political party is in the majority in that neighborhood). Be sure to find out if you must register in the same county you live in. As Blind_Of_Lies said, be sure to check with the county clerk or election office to learn the local rules, and to find where and when to register--as well where, when and how you can vote. Then follow through, get informed about the candidates and issues, and be sure to vote!

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REAL-TIME CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY UPDATE "DO NOT SHOPLIFT FROM JEHOVAH!"!!!

by Sunflower Samurai in

just a quick overview of some new light that is coming our way, forgive my posting via my cellphone.

audience is given ten questions and we have receved anwsers to r questions.. .

"we are stealing from jehovah, if we are worrying about problems in our life, congregation, or employment.

GLTirebiter

Did you shoplift Jah's wifi service to make your post?

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Solar Eclipse Tomorrow, May 20, 2012

by ohiocowboy in

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for anyone interested, tomorrow there will be an annular eclipse of the sun, which will be seen from china and japan to the middle of the united states.. below is a link to a site that shows an animated map of how the eclipse will appear in your neck of the woods.

just click on your state or country and go from there.. if you want any more info on this eclipse, you can do a google search.. here in the dfw area, the sun will be eclipsed about 90%, which should still provide a decent show.

those living on the east coast of the usa will not be able to see it though, due to the fact that the sun will already have set in that area..

GLTirebiter

I got a short look at the start (with proper solar viewing glasses). Unfortunately, the sun is gone behind some clouds so I won't see the peak eclipse at local sunset.

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Personal Attacks

by Band on the Run in

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recently, i showed a great deal of vulnerability by posting that severe pain had popped out again and my morphine pump needs some tinkering.

it seems i am attacked with some frequency for posting here but other frequent posters are not.

rather than discuss the merits of a subject, some people engage in personal attack.

GLTirebiter

BOTR, I fappreciate that you share your expertise with the law. Being able to explain it in layman's words, while dealing with chronic pain, is quite an accomplishment. I hope the adjustment to the pump works for you!

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2012 Convention Releases

by garlic81 in

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post 51 of 52. since 3/27/2009.

google_ad_section_start i can't verify the authenticity of this information as i have not personally attended.

however this is what is posted on another site.. friday:.

GLTirebiter

Is it possible to run a pdf of the old NWT against the new one with some kind of software to determine the changes?

There are tools to do that, such as DiffPDF, but I don't know how well they handle such long files (15MB).

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Is There Any Real Difference Between Elders & Priests?

by minimus in

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i see very little except that priests wear black..

GLTirebiter

Just what exactly am I missing here?

Elders get confessed tosummon the acccused to a mandatory interrogation, priests get confessed to voluntarily--they have no power to compel a confession.

Elders enjoy privileged information which is known to multiple elders on the judicial council and to witnesses who testify before the council, which becomes fodder for gossip when an announcement is made to the congregation; priests enjoy privileged information known only to them and the penitent, and they are forbidden to reveal even the existance of such information to anybody (even if their silence means going to prison).

Elders get orders from Bethel as spelled out in the top-secret elders manual and letters from HQ that most members are forbidden to see; priests get orders from published encyclical letters and the code of canon law, available for anybody to see and read (clergy, layman, and non-Catholic alike)--the same rules which apply to all members of the Church, including the Vatican.

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6/15 WT - WT Society can Run it's Business - but JW's Can't Have their Own

by flipper in

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in the typical do as we say , not as we do type mentality - the wt society puts forth in this current wt study article ( jw's only wt ) - that it's not " advisable " or " reasonable " for jehovah's witnesses to seek entering their own business ventures , or further themselves by getting a college education, or even have a career - due to the imminent coming of the alleged " end of the system " or alleged " paradise " .

the guilt and control used here is ridiculous.

in the article titled , " why put jehovah's service first ?

GLTirebiter

If it wasn't for Brothers starting up contracting, excavating, construction, plumbing and electrical businesses--where else could they go to find free skilled labor for the quick-builds?

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Why You Shouldn't care about offending Jehovah's Witnesses

by Dogpatch in

why you shouldn't care about .

offending jehovah's witnesses .

[partial quote, please read the whole article with pictures].

GLTirebiter

I just think non-jws don't really understand what and why jws believe what they do. I think there is a lot of mind-reading going on by non-jws, ineffective explanations by jws, and a school administration that is afraid of lawsuits.

Lack of comprehension and fear of lawsuits are some reason people fear giving offense. In addiiton, non-JWs usually don't realize that JWs tend to not put much stock in the opinions "worldly" people hold of their religion.

While religious differences don't upset them (disagreement only convinces them that they're right and you're wrong), it's a mistake to think they are just as mentally tough in matters beyond religion. In my experience (limited, I admit) Witnesses often are more vulnerable than average in areas outside the WT umbrella. Perhaps that's compensation, because exerting so much emotional strength in one area of their life leaves little for anything else. Perhaps it's because the trained, reflex responses to any criticism of the WT religion blocks any real comprehension of an opposing view. Or perhaps it's because high-control groups like the WT tend to attact, and especially to retain, vulnerable souls hungry for the security of the group, and those members will guard that security at almost any cost.

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A question for Roman Catholics ...

by talesin in

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i attended a funeral on the weekend, and my friend asked me to go up with her for the wafer (no disrespect intended, i'm not sure of the correct term to use).

she is rc herself, but was shy to walk up alone - it was a large funeral.. .

i did not, because i have been told in the past that it would be very disrespectful.

GLTirebiter

She said that it was considered okay for a baptized person (of any faith, as long as you had been baptized by 'someone') to do so, RC or not.

While some Catholics (including some heterodox priests) consider it OK, that is not the official position. Because the Church considers Eastern (Orthodox) churchs to have valid sacraments, their members can partake of Catholic sacraments if acceptable to both sects. Protestants, however, are not considered to have valid sacraments, so their members cannot participate in Catholic communion. The official Church policy is in Articles 1399-1400 of the Catechism:

The Eastern churches that are not in full communion with the Catholic Church celebrate the Eucharist with great love. "These Churches, although separated from us, yet possess true sacraments, above all - by apostolic succession - the priesthood and the Eucharist, whereby they are still joined to us in closest intimacy." A certain communion in sacris, and so in the Eucharist, "given suitable circumstances and the approval of Church authority, is not merely possible but is encouraged."

Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, "have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders. It is for this reason that Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible for the Catholic Church. However these ecclesial communities, "when they commemorate the Lord's death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory."

since wine is expensive and may lead to abuse by alcoholics, only the priest follows that part of the ceremony in some Churches.

Laity receiving consecrated unleavened bread alone was the practice for a long time, but you jump to conclusions about the reason for that. It was mostly a matter of practicality: how much wine would be needed, how many priests and deacons were available to distribute communion, and how long it would take. Depending on the diocese and parish, lay persons would receive consecrated wine on special occassions, such as the bride and groom at their nuptial mass. Most churches today are not standing-room-only, but that was the case until a few decades ago. Since 1969, the Church also apponts lay "Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist" to assist the priest and deacon with communion when necessary (with the present-day shortage of clergy, that means most of the time).

Under Catholic doctrine, it makes no difference: the complete Eucharist is present in the Host as well as the chalice.

The other thing was women who were divorced (I don't know about men but would guess the same). They were not allowed to receive communion. Because divorce was not acceptable.

It applies equally to man and woman alike, but the statement above is too general and requires clarification. Those who have been in a valid marriage, then divorce, and then marry another are not eligible to receive communion. Marriage to another is the main issue. From Catechism Article 1650 [emphasis added]:

Today there are numerous Catholics in many countries who have recourse to civil divorce and contract new civil unions. In fidelity to the words of Jesus Christ - "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery" The Church maintains that a new union cannot be recognized as valid, if the first marriage was. If the divorced are remarried civilly, they find themselves in a situation that objectively contravenes God's law. Consequently, they cannot receive Eucharistic communion as long as this situation persists.

And from Articles 2382-2384 [emphasis added]:

Between the baptized, "a ratified and consummated marriage cannot be dissolved by any human power or for any reason other than death."

The separation of spouses while maintaining the marriage bond can be legitimate in certain cases provided for by canon law. If civil divorce remains the only possible way of ensuring certain legal rights, the care of the children, or the protection of inheritance, it can be tolerated and does not constitute a moral offense.

... Contracting a new union, even if it is recognized by civil law, adds to the gravity of the rupture: the remarried spouse is then in a situation of public and permanent adultery