i've had this same discussion with my dub relatives. if god is really there, why not just say so in a manner that is definitely provable? people would still have the choice of whether or not they would follow him/her. many believe that proof of god's existence is the opposite of having faith, but i do not believe that it is. faith can help me accept something credible that i don't happen to understand. e.g. gravity. i dont quite understand how gravity works, but i can clearly see it's effects, so i can have faith that if i jump off a cliff, i'm gonna go splat.
otho, to say that creation is proof of god's existence, to me, is circular. it is proof that we are here - nothing more. there is no evidence that jehoover created us (or any other god for that matter). the explanation given by a bunch of primitive men who wrote that "jehoober made us and wants us to do all these confusing things that can be taken out of context for non-jehoober sanctioned purposes" and then later were venerated by others: oh it's in this "book" - "see right here it says jehoober created us, therefore he did" isn't proving anything. it's simply their opinion that they wrote down. "oh i was inspired by god to write this" ... really? that's quite a claim to make ... can you offer any credible evidence to support that claim? (because you see many nutjobs make the same claim, so how do we know you're not a nutjob?) "uhh, well if you need evidence, then you suck because a real man of faith doesnt need evidence."
how convenient ...
"oh and by the way, god needs money ... lots of money ... and he doesnt want you to wear beards ... and you have to do all these things ... and if you dont do all these things that these holy dudes in a factory in brooklyn come up with at the drop of a hat, then you get destroyed with all the 'worldly' people at armageddon which is right around the corner, really it is, no this time it is, stop that 1975 business that was your fault not ours, 1986? we didn't say that you did, no it's really close now .. so get off facebook and stop sexting (unless you want to sext to any of us elders - that's okay) and do more stuff for the Holy Factory Dudes or you'll die!"
to put someone's life in the balance for this spooky non-provable circular and definitely exclusive club of "oh we have god's blessing and you dont" way of "revealing god" ... sounds more like a way of controlling people than anything else.