They wouldn't dare - terrified of hearing us talk about the liberating gospel of grace which they carefully hide from their followers and worshippers.
Fernando
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Worry Over Possible "Spying Elders"
by abbasgreta inthis seems to be a real worry for 'faders' on a number of threads.
the responses to ducati's first posting.
is a good example.
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What's the difference between exJWs who FLOURISH and those that don't?
by Fernando inquite a few here on jwn seem to have grown and developed in leaps and bounds, sometimes beyond their wildest dreams.. others seem to still be struggling.. what do you think makes it possible to flourish?.
the degree to which our mind has been liberated from watchtower thinking?.
if so, this seems to happen in many different ways, so what is the secret?.
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Fernando
Quite a few here on JWN seem to have grown and developed in leaps and bounds, sometimes beyond their wildest dreams.
Others seem to still be struggling.
What do you think makes it possible to flourish?
The degree to which our mind has been liberated from Watchtower thinking?
If so, this seems to happen in many different ways, so what is the secret?
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Scriptural Basis for Obedience to GB?
by mrhhome ini have a genuine question for the jw apologist.
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what is your scriptural justification for your unquestioning obedience to the governing body and your unwillingness to question their intepretation of scripture?.
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Fernando
I suspect JWN has a rather high conversion rate from JW apologist to lover of TTATT...
How about:
(Jeremiah 17:5) . . .“Cursed is the able-bodied man who puts his trust in earthling man..."
(Psalm 146:3) . . .Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.Are the GB "earthling man"?
Of course not.
They are demigods ("mortals raised to divine rank").
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What happened in Christianity ? O.T prophets were male & female ,God was not gender specific,
by smiddy inaccording to scripture they could.
sure in jw land anybody could partake of the emblems and wine , male and female denoting they could be rulers with christ in his heavenly kingdom , however did many of these partakers actually have any say with the governing body ?
in fact did any of them have any say in their own kingdom halls ?
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Fernando
I liked your point about the curse of inequality having (legally) been brought to an end by Jesus, villagegirl.
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Fernando
"You basically leave your religion at the front door and when you are in work uniform."
Now if only you could shun some of your custom making its way into their pay checks...
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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?
by LogCon inif so, what would be some examples?.
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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..
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Fernando
And what yadda yadda 2 said.
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What happened in Christianity ? O.T prophets were male & female ,God was not gender specific,
by smiddy inaccording to scripture they could.
sure in jw land anybody could partake of the emblems and wine , male and female denoting they could be rulers with christ in his heavenly kingdom , however did many of these partakers actually have any say with the governing body ?
in fact did any of them have any say in their own kingdom halls ?
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Fernando
Heaven forbid that women defile themselves with religion as part of the apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy.
We men should hang our heads in shame for our divisive legacy of war, religion and politics.
Women's compassionate and community oriented proclivities make them much better promoters of liberating and unifying faith, spirituality, the gospel, peace, and genuine prophesy instead.
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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?
by LogCon inif so, what would be some examples?.
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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..
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Fernando
Yes. Definitely.
The entire body of elders in my last congregation had their finger on the trigger to d/f me for (on a single occasion) asking the question: "what is the gospel in one word?"
I was threatened privately and publically (in a local needs talk).
They did not want the R&F to discover that the gospel (especially according to Paul) was being carefully hidden from them.
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If I asked for a loan from the WBTS would they give it to me?
by objectivetruth inif this were the "organization" that jesus chose in 1914.. err 1919, wouldn't the principles that he laid out while on earth apply to this organization as well?.
matthew 5:42 "give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.".
so if jw's all asked for loans from the org, every now and then, it would be the orgs responsibility to grant those loans (interest free).
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Fernando
Well reasoned.
A loan from thieves and wolves?
No chance.
(John 10:1) . . ."Most truly I say to YOU, He that does not enter into the sheepfold through the door but climbs up some other place, that one is a thief and a plunderer."
(Matthew 7:15) . . ."Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves."
*** it-1 p. 75 Alien Resident ***
One who attempts to gather religious followers to himself is termed by Christ as “a thief” and “a stranger,” one dangerous to Christ’s “sheep,” and is considered a false shepherd. -
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Local JW Booth - Are You STRESSED?
by talesin inso, yesterday i approached the local jw booth that is a few blocks from my house.
they are set up on the sidewalk, at the edge of a downtown park.
the display was merely rows of a magazine, with the headline *are you stressed?*.
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Fernando
Less is more.
That was great talesin.
Life and the GB will do the rest.