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  hello everyone

  by purrpurr in

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  i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.

  by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.

  a brief bio.

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  Fernando

  Welcome purrpurr!

  Congratulations on being able to see that all is not well and on doing something about it.

  Cowardice prevents many, but will ultimately consign them to Gehenna per Rev 21:8.

  There are many great folks on JWN and you should be fine if you stay humble, avoid arguments like the plague, resolutely ignore the odd hater, and make allowances for those going through a really bad patch or those that occasionally have simply had too much to drink.

  Believers also benefit from keeping it rather low key.

  Greetings

  Fernando

  SEQ, Australia

  PS - I left mid-2009, and now identify as SBNR (Spiritual But Not Religious) after more than 4 decades as RBNS (Religious But Not Spiritual).
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  Can anyone give me any advice on how to get rid of cockroaches?

  by Jeannette in

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  i have sprayed, i have bug bombed, i have sprayed some more.

  i threw things out i thought that they might have a nest in.

  i soaked some things in hot water all day.

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  Fernando

  A highly poisonous brown gel used by licenced pest controllers and placed strategically throughout the house has worked very well for us in several different homes we've lived in.

  I cannot remember the name or active ingredient.
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  I know this is never going to happen ....however , what if ...?

  by smiddy in

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  can you imagine what this world would be like today , with 7 billion people , if their were never , ever a religous concept in anybodys mind ?.

  wouldnt this world be such a better place to be in if it was devoid of all religion ?.

  if religion never existed from the time man/woman first walked the earth until now how do you see , pros or cons , how humakind would fare today.. as i said in my o.p.

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  Fernando

  From: http://mkaku.org/home/tag/telescope/

  Quick — name the invention that has done most to redefine our place in the universe. Hint: This invention was also the most seditious, blasphemous instrument of all time, shaking the very foundations of society. The answer, if you haven’t already guessed it, is the telescope. Read the WIRED.com article “The Telescope: 400 Years and Counting”
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  I know this is never going to happen ....however , what if ...?

  by smiddy in

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  can you imagine what this world would be like today , with 7 billion people , if their were never , ever a religous concept in anybodys mind ?.

  wouldnt this world be such a better place to be in if it was devoid of all religion ?.

  if religion never existed from the time man/woman first walked the earth until now how do you see , pros or cons , how humakind would fare today.. as i said in my o.p.

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  Fernando

  I believe if we all had only ever been exposed to the liberating gospel, human society would have been very different and much better.
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  Who Really Profits from the WTBTS?

  by Freedom77 in

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  like they say in the movies, "follow the money.

  " the thought occurred to me the other day - the wt scam rakes in billions of dollars, and yeah some of that goes to operations and equipment.

  but bethelites at farm and factory get only a bare little dorm room and a monthly pittance.

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  Fernando

  For me the ultimate hidden player is the god of religion who is desperate to hide the liberating gospel message from us.
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  Does anyone live by any Bible stuff?

  by punkofnice in

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  this is not meant to be a slag off the bible thread.. i had a question asked me the other day and it was: 'do you live by anything from the bible?'.

  i had to think about that one because i was force grown in the filthy, disgusting cult of the paedophile loving watchtower(r).. you know what?

  i really don't know if i just naturally am a great bloke or if any 'nice' bits in the bible influenced me......or has western culture been influenced by the bible for good and bad?.

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  I have been greatly influenced and changed by focussing on the central message of scripture and the prophets, namely the relationship between two opposites - the liberating gospel, versus the bondage of religion.
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  What are the phases on a cult exit journey?

  by Fernando in

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  for reasons i am still trying to fully understand and explain i was not able to properly pinpoint, identify and name the phases of my cult exit journey as i was going through them.

  now i feel the need to even more.. some phases that came to mind this morning for me:.

  identity crisis (who am i, what do i believe).

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  Fernando

  Hey Dis-Member!

  I'm still trying to gain a better understanding of the process and phases.

  It has been 5 years since walking out for me.

  Maybe it took longer in my case since I was 3rd generation, and in for more than 4 decades, and was quite devout.
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  Instrucitons for using the toilet at the convention (pic)

  by maninthemiddle in

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  this was posted in the men's room stall, i hear the instructions in the womens room was more detailed.. this was in addition to having a "bathroom attendant" handing out 1 paper towel per person.. i haven't felt so childish since i was in grade schooll, i had to wonder if all the tall people around me were really grown men and women.. .

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  Fernando

  Calebs Airplane has just outed himself as head honcho of the writing department.
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  Just got off the elevator with Anthony Morris

  by kneehighmiah in

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  at the international convention here i just got off the elevator with anthony morris.

  he was heading to the basement and i was heading up to administration.

  i rode one floor down with him before i went up to my destination.

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  Fernando

  A bit of a conundrum if you despise the ʽam-ha·ʼa′rets (dumb sheeple) but need their praise and worship.
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  What are the phases on a cult exit journey?

  by Fernando in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for reasons i am still trying to fully understand and explain i was not able to properly pinpoint, identify and name the phases of my cult exit journey as i was going through them.

  now i feel the need to even more.. some phases that came to mind this morning for me:.

  identity crisis (who am i, what do i believe).

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  Fernando

  For reasons I am still trying to fully understand and explain I was not able to properly pinpoint, identify and name the phases of my cult exit journey as I was going through them. Now I feel the need to even more.

  Some phases that came to mind this morning for me:

  • identity crisis (who am I, what do I believe)

  • consolidation (merging of my thoughts as they became clearer)

  • integration (joining of the dots)

  • wholeness (a cohesive and complete picture emerges)

  What helped me most in getting through each phase was:

  • Psychologists with personal cult exit experience, psychotherapy, CBT, EMDRAA

  • workshops with ex-members of other cults

  • voracious and relentless reading/writing/speaking/meditating

  • socialising (both face-to-face and over the internet)

  Can you share and explain your perspectives, and list some of the phases you have experienced or read about, and maybe what helped you along the way?