i'll wager that the number is close to 100 percent.
what number?
the number of jws who have lists--lists of things that make them go hmmm or even wha'???
Wow that was very revealing and cathartic - I didn't realise just how long the list was before the tipping point was reached - ouch - and thank you for a great thread FHN.
I had also managed to forget that their was so much darkness and error I was aware of even prior to the lights coming on fully.
Very interesting and potentially useful concept for helping loved ones. I believe you are right about 100% (of JWs having such a hidden or secret list).
i'll wager that the number is close to 100 percent.
what number?
the number of jws who have lists--lists of things that make them go hmmm or even wha'???
From oldest to most recent (all own personal observations - not influenced by outside sources):
i have quite a big group of friends who were all in the cong together when we were teens.
about 75% of them stopped going or were df'd right after high school.
it is a varied group; a couple are staunch apostates, some dont care one way or another, and another handfull are fully "worldly", but still believe it is the truth.
Totally cured and innoculated against my former addiction to the Supremacist Apostate Doomsday Cult and its inane apostate ruling religious clergy class...
i'm just curious but has anybody meet some one on jehovahwitness-net who they knew in their jw lives.
just want to hear experiences.
please include the indicators that led up to you identifying each other, and how you eventually revealed yourself.
Only one, because this person does not post anonymously.
I'm sure there are more, but will likely only find out if and when I post with my photo, name, and/or congregation list (or if they do the same).
This is of course a great time to thank the many persons who like Paul Grundy model a way in which we can be totally open despite the consequences. Now if we all did that...
of course this is a hypothetical question , it will never happen .?
but what if it did , what do you think the society would be like if it did happen .?.
let your imaginations run wild .
Personally I believe women should not allow themselves to be compromised and denigrated by becoming part of the apostate ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy.
http://bayfiles.net/file/1jpu5/qhxxxl/w_e20141115.pdf.
select "premium download".
(thanks breakfast of champions).
I was happy to finally understand the Watchtower Organisation "simply" as a "Scaremongering Apostate Supremacist Doomsday Cult" but have just been stunned speechless by the JWFacts table on the 1260 days lunacy...
Thank you all the same Paul for your generous efforts, and sacrifices, on behalf of all ex, and all would-be, followers of the corrupt but exceedingly lame and irrelevant Watchtower.
The GB it seems to me are dealing with their fear of irrelevance and exposure by promoting a fear-based siege mentality in their followers too.
Would it be too much to hope that "the end is near" for the Watchtower, and that liberation or "the beginning is near" for its followers?
i just finished crysis of a conscience and all i have to say is wow!
showed how they sadly look for doctrine changes to fit their agenda vs what the bible says.
any new light or changes i'll be wondering the real motive behind them.
From a Spiritual But Not Religious (SBNR) perspective I've enjoyed and benefitted from:
"What is the gospel?" by Greg Gilbert
"The Explicit gospel" by Matt Chandler
"The King Jesus gospel" by Scot McKnight
"The Lost Message of Jesus" by Steve Chalke
"The Mystery of Christ" (and why we don't get it) by Robert Farrar Capon
"Pagan Christianity" by Frank Viola and George Barna
"Christless Christianity" by Michael Horton
"Pharisectomy" by Peter Haas (on "How to Joyfully Remove Your Inner Pharisee and Other Religiously Transmitted Diseases")
"Christianity is Not Religion" by James Fowler
"Soul Rape" by Shean Smith
obviously i'm having ex cult issues, family still in and a wife that's all kokoo for cocopuffs as well as our marriage isn't good.
i would like to leave her, she has never been the kind of wife i wanted.
anyway the stress is getting to be to much, thinking about things all the time and its effecting my work as well as otherthings.
Hey Band on the Run!
I guess the website makes it seem as if he is still around. That's what I love about the internet. Great ideas can live on past the individual until people and societies are more ready for them. So those of us who feel we have got good ideas we want to leave behind better get a move on before our time on this planet is up.
According to Wikipedia Thomas Szasz died September 8, 2012 (aged 92).
i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.
I believe in Science, God, God's word or message (the liberating gospel of grace and peace), faith, spirituality and humanity.
I do not believe in the god of religion, although I do believe in his existence, his bad influence, and his great fear of the gospel/faith/spirituality/humanity/science/God.
Whilst I am sure of the expansive and comprehensive gospel and God's existence, there is still a lot left to learn and understand, but much of this will have to wait until the next life which I believe is eternal.
wow, it's true - they don't call to 'promote god's kingdom' anymore but just their website!.
we just had an old lady call and tell us that was exactly what they were doing and it has "lots of good things on their for children".
yeah, right ... sparlock?.
JWs - Knock, knock.
HH - Good day, would you like to learn how to use your own website?
JWs - enter and sit down
HH - Let's go to wol.jw.org and count how many times your Bible uses the phrase "Good News" and how many of these are by Paul.
JWs - The phrase "Good News" appears 152 times in our Bible. 85 of these are by Paul.
HH - Why then is the "Good News" according to Paul not in your hearts or on your lips?
JWs - We are only the drones, and will need to go find one of our Sanhedrin's Pharisees to answer your question.
HH - The Pharisees hate the "Good News" according to Paul. I invite you instead to make a personal study of the "Good News" according to Paul, and return to me when it is in your hearts and on your lips.
