What about writing "After caring for my household, I will be donating as much as I can to those in need in our local community"?
Fernando
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants
by Londo111 inthis is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
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Fernando
I have no doubt that many of their postulations are reactive and in response to detractors catching them with their pants down and their minds corrupted.
In the end as Ray Franz observed they merely weave an increasingly tangled web aka a "morass of inconsistencies".
Being materialistic spiritually blind apostates, the GB (Sanhedrin) are not able to walk by spirit and must rely on walking by sight and flesh. Hence they have no access to higher wisdom and need to keep cheating and lying to avoid being unmasked to their followers.
Their end will come.
Corruption is not indefinitely sustainable.
(Maybe consultants are indeed used to help them strategize on packaging and timing of their latest "nu light")
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Why did God/Jehovah/Jesus create Viruses and bacteria that can kill humans and animals?
by Jon Preston ini know this topic has been spoken about but i havent seen an official thead about it.
so theists why did god create these and why does he co tinue to allow them?
are they from the talking snake, satan?.
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Fernando
Whilst I do believe there is abundant evidence for an intelligent, wise and loving creator, there is much not revealed or explained in scripture.
Until experience, science and/or God supply the answer we can often only speculate.
I also believe that despite many great scientific breakthroughs and discoveries we are still only beginning to scratch the surface and will in future be stunned by our ignorance.
This makes me think of renowned physicist Lord Kelvin who in 1895, in spite of observing birds fly, declared that "heavier than air flying machines are impossible". The Wright brothers proved him wrong only 8 years later.
More recently the medical establishment at first laughably rejected Prof Barry Marshall's discovery of the Helicobacter Pylori bacterium and its role in stomach ulcers. It took 23 years before he was awarded a Nobel prize for this discovery.
Our best scientific minds also believed the jet engine to be impossible right up to its development.
Despite great advances in Western medicine 9 out of 10 Australians have a 100% chance of getting AND dying from Chronic Disease.
In short we humans are not as clever as we sometimes imagine.
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Doesn't the ARMAGEDDON teaching foster a MORBID view of the future?
by Black Man ineven when i was dyed-in-the-wool j-dub, i felt the armageddon teaching was one of the most morbid concepts to be hammered into the psyches of jws.
think about it, only jws would survive this catastrophe, which translates to roughly .001 percent of the population would survive while everyone else would die a horrible death.
that includes people who do good things and are good people, but are just not jws.
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Fernando
Indeed.
The very opposite of the liberating "Good News".
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Amazing Experience while in the Door to Door field service.. The work really is speeding up.
by objectivetruth ina pioneer sister who just returned from pioneer school, and her elder husband, who was previously in bethel are in service.. when they come to an enthusiastic house holder.
after discussing the glorious messianic kingdom that has been ruling since 1914,err 1919 the house holder says "ok this really is good news, what must i do to be saved??".
brother elder and sister pioneer elder both look at each other, and they know right away the best answer... sister pioneer reaches into her bag pulling out her km approved preaching tablet device (she waves it around a. bit, with the purpose of impressing the householder how advanced the wt is), she then says i want to show you our website, jw .
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Fernando
The Watchtower is indeed a master of turning the simple "plan of salvation" into the complicated "scam of salvation".
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Amazing Experience while in the Door to Door field service.. The work really is speeding up.
by objectivetruth ina pioneer sister who just returned from pioneer school, and her elder husband, who was previously in bethel are in service.. when they come to an enthusiastic house holder.
after discussing the glorious messianic kingdom that has been ruling since 1914,err 1919 the house holder says "ok this really is good news, what must i do to be saved??".
brother elder and sister pioneer elder both look at each other, and they know right away the best answer... sister pioneer reaches into her bag pulling out her km approved preaching tablet device (she waves it around a. bit, with the purpose of impressing the householder how advanced the wt is), she then says i want to show you our website, jw .
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Fernando
Oh don't you just love your favourite schizophrenic and psychotic religion...
How lucky I was to have been born into the Watchtower.
And how unlucky all the other bums born into all the other religions. Poor sods.
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A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement
by TTATTelder inthe gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
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Fernando
It seems to me they are going beyond even the "soliciting" they said they would never do.
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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
by Faithful Witness inshe has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
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Fernando
Best wishes.
Why pander to her fear of being asked questions and her fear of writing out her own answers in her own handwriting?
It may not be wise to allow her to make you do all the heavy lifting - she'll learn little or nothing, and maybe just grow a bigger ego.
My all time favourite: "please can you explain the gospel to me in one word and in writing?"
(Followed by "why not?")
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My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth
by OneEyedJoe infirst off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.
if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.
to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.
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Fernando
Welcome OneEyedJoe.
Thank you for sharing your valued and well written perspective and for thinking of lurkers and their predicament.
My exit and thinking at the time was not nearly as well thought out, calm, rational, stable and balanced.
Actually the opposite.
I do envy you.
At any rate congratulations for being such a quick learner and taking on board ideas on how to be a better husband and person, to ease your wife's journey. She may not be as well resourced, and as you have pointed out emotion will be a factor to loving consider and deal with.
Best wishes all round
Fernando
South East Queensland, Australia
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Do Current WT writers review Early Russell Writings? Obviously not.
by objectivetruth infrom the book "the divine plan of the ages" - c.t.
russell 1886. as a forcible illustration we mention the sodomites.
surely, if we shall find the restitution of the sodomites clearly taught, we may feel satisfied of the truth of this glorious doctrine of restitution for all mankind, spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets.... unto the jews of capernaum he said, "if the mighty works which have been done in thee had been done in sodom, it would have remained until this day.
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Fernando
"There is nothing Worse then an apostate that has the Power to take the Place of Jesus in Millions of peoples Lives."
Indeed. Sad too.