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  Did the GB ever receive new light without the passage of time forcing it upon them?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .

  (i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).

  what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?

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  Fernando

  Great question and topic.

  Without the passage of time, and without questions and contrary proof from the R&F or detractors?

  I doubt it...
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  Congregation Pledge Disgusted Elder

  by rrb2016 in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  at the meeting the other night, the elder who had to read the announcements, which included the $$ info for the new donation arrangement seemed downright disgusted as he read the announcements and asked for the vote.

  he said, "well, here is another organizational change" as he read the letter about the discontinuation of the 2nd meeting during co visit.

  then after they voted, he said if you have any questions ask this other elder as if he wanted nothing to do with it.

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  Fernando

  May the disgust multiply unabated along with the insanity of the Watchtower ruling religious clergy class, until the whole ugly mess implodes...
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  If You Owned This Site Would It Be Any Different?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this site is probably one of the most informative jw sites on the internet.

  if you want to keep abreast of the watchtower, this is a great place to find out the latest in jw land.

  kudos to simon for keeping it going all these years!!!

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  Fernando

  Freedom of expression is hard to beat...
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  A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.

  "for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.

  * so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".

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  Fernando

  Another great reminder of why it is so great to be free of the apostate and controlling Watchtower organisation.
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  'Enemies' by J.F. Rutherford

  by Pleasuredome in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  theres a book on ebay called 'enemies' by j.f.

  rutherford.

  ive never heard of this book before, does anyone know anything about it?

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  Fernando

  From page 71 of "Enemies" (some OCR errors corrected):

  The Devil is man's worst enemy, and his religion
  is likewise a deadly enemy to man. The
  Devil's organization is symbolised by an unchaste
  or impure woman, which is called "Babylon".
  Therefore all religions are of Babylon,
  and particulary the leading religion known in
  the lands called "Christendom".

  All the nations, kindreds and peoples on the
  earth since the flood have had and practiced,
  and do continue to have and practice, some
  form of religion, and each and every one has
  been made so to do by the wily influence of that
  wicked one the Devil, and his associate wicked
  spirit. It is therefore written in the Bible of
  and concerning Babylon that 'she has made all
  the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication'.
  (Revelation 14: 8)
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  JW 2014 YouTube Documentary

  by kneehighmiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had an idea.

  i was reading about the success of the kony 2012 video and was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a documentary to coincide with the international conventions and the 100 year anniversary of gods kingdom.

  the video would be less than 30 minutes long.

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  Fernando

  Great idea kneehighmiah.

  Humans being humans, the more successful you are, the more support you'll get.

  Believe in yourself and your idea.

  That will see you through the initial inertia.

  PS - A possible market research question: "what would make you watch a 30 minute video on Jehovah's Witnesses"?
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  'Enemies' by J.F. Rutherford

  by Pleasuredome in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  theres a book on ebay called 'enemies' by j.f.

  rutherford.

  ive never heard of this book before, does anyone know anything about it?

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  Fernando

  Yes, "Enemies" was published in 1937.

  A companion book is "Religion" and was published in 1940.

  These books reveal that Rutherford taught that ALL religion is a snare and a racket.

  It seems the terms "false religion" and "true religion" cannot be found in these books.

  The term "all religion" is found several times.

  http://ia600400.us.archive.org/16/items/EnemiesByJudgeRutherford1937/1937-ENEMIES.pdf
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  JW Literature... Lots of it... what to burn and what to keep?

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have lots and lots of watchtower literature... and i don't know what could be useful in the future to have as a reference or as a keeper.

  i am definitely keeping the 1993 and 1994 bound volumes of the awake!

  (no, we are not false prophets... down in the same page, the generation of 1914 will not pass... also the youths who put god the watchtower first).

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  Fernando

  Some you may want to keep, if you have them:

  Enemies, 1937 (ALL religion is a snare and a racket)

  Religion, 1940 (ALL religion is a snare and a racket)

  Aid to Bible Understanding (Ray Franz)
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  Would You Become A JW Again If Local Congregations Could Become Independent?

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those who still believe in god, if local congregations could break away from the watchtower would you consider becoming a witness again.

  this would mean no more governing body, circuit overseers, watchtower magazines, and each congregation could have its own "new light".

  most of us left because of the control (no college, disfellowsipping) but if the watchtower was out of the picture, all of this would disappear.

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  Fernando

  Since their congregations, traditions and doctrines are all manmade, no.
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  ...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  .. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...

  .. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...

  are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...

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  Fernando

  Donations drying up.

  Maybe because of gnawing doubts?

  The solution?

  Apply more pressure.

  Help those doubts crystallise.

  How novel.

  Bring it on big time.

  Go GB, go.