Posts by JAVA

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Ex elders, have you apologized to anyone you df'd?

by avishai in

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for instance, especially kids under the age of eighteen, or dfing folks for questioning the society?

i think if i had been involved, i'd have to get on the horn with everyone i'd df'd.

except the child molesters

JAVA

I was on a committee that df'd a sister who confessed to having oral sex with her spouse. She said she liked it, her spouse liked it, and it was good for their marriage. As a committee we had no option (the Tower was clear about it at that time) and she was df'd.

A few years later she was reinstated, and her spouse was baptized, too. I told them I was sorry about the whole affair because the Society had backed off on the issue at that time. As good little JWs, they said it was alright, etc. I knew it wasn't "alright," and tried to apologize for our action and for the Tower's flip-flop.

That was over 30 years ago, and I have no idea where this couple is today. I hope they're no longer JWs, and are enjoying a normal relationship.

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Whatever happened to the KINGDOM SMILE???

by Latte in

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whilst sat in my car at some temporary traffic lights recently i saw what looked like a co doing his bit of encouraging a young boy in the f.ministry , he had his hand on this young boys back (kinda distant for a dad) i smelt a co immediately!

lol.

the road was narrow, and then low and behold!

JAVA

The "Kingdom Smile" is like the kingdom dress, it's usually put on. After the newness of being in "the Truth" wares off, the smiling faces at the Kingdom Hall becomes nothing more than required masks for "God's happy people." The face behind the mask shows through when a JW is confronted by someone not playing their game; by a person who KNOWS about their game, and is no longer playing it. As a general rule JWs are very unhappy people (as we all know), and it shows when they are face to face with a smiling ex-member.

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If You See A JW or An Elder, Do You Try To Avoid Them?

by minimus in

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when i was in a drugstore a couple of months ago, i saw the presiding overseer in the other aisle with his wife.

i saw them and made a conscious decision to leave.

what would you have done in a similar situation??

JAVA

I've been out for 20 years, but when I see someone from the past I go right up to them and say, "Are you still a Jehovah Witness?" If they say yes, I follow up with, "That's too bad; do you still shun members for voting and sending Mother's Day cards?" If they say no, I fill them in on books, websites, etc.

You can just see the Witnesses wanting to fall into a crack, and they usually take off before I ask other questions. It's been a few years since I've done this, but I don't know most of the Witnesses in this area anymore.

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They really don't have the truth! Their own web server admits it!

by AlmostAtheist in

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http://www.watchtower.org/thetruth

in case you have friendly html errors turned on, here's the output i get from the watchtower's site when i go searching for thetruth:.

it's nice to see them admitting it.

JAVA

I believe it's the first time the Tower has told the truth in many years--I wonder if this will be a trend? :)

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Why I am SURE we made to right decision to leave the JW's..........

by Latte in

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this is an entry i made into a diary from about 4 12 years ago - 6mths before we finally left.......

"summer hols have come and gone...... not one jw asked to play with my lovely children - sick people" .

JAVA

With Latte as your forum name, I knew you were a good person!

Your children's photo is great--it's nice seeing what normal looks like.

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Make "your own" JW door to door presentation...

by JH in

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hey!

my name is minister rat, and i just happened to be in your neighbourhood.

have a look at this cool babe on the front page of this june awake.

JAVA

Did I miss anything?

Very well done -- how can I sign up? :)

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Why I am SURE we made to right decision to leave the JW's..........

by Latte in

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this is an entry i made into a diary from about 4 12 years ago - 6mths before we finally left.......

"summer hols have come and gone...... not one jw asked to play with my lovely children - sick people" .

JAVA

Unless you're at the KH with an underlined Watchtower, or out selling magazines for the Tower, "the love of the greater number cools off."

In the long run, your children and family are much better off without these so-called friends. Sadly, this is also the case with JW-family members under the control of Brooklyn's largest cult.

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If this was your last post on JWD, what would you say?

by Rod P in

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suppose something came up that was beyond your control, but you were given one last chance to say something on this forum for all the posters here.

what would you say to all of us for the last time?.

rod p.

JAVA

I would say, "I'll be back."

Welcome, LouBelle!

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What's the most thought-provoking novel you've ever read?

by lucky in

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i'd have to say for me that it was ayn rand's the fountainhead.

even though i don't agree with a lot of her philosophy, it definitely made me stumble around in a thought-induced haze for a few weeks after reading it.

JAVA

The True Believer, by Eric Hoffer. It's more an analysis of the psychology of mass movements, but I enjoyed reading it as if it was a novel.

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things that work and things that don't work

by joelbear in

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since i've been experiencing anxiety and depression for a long time, someone asked if i would post things that work for me and things that don't.. things that don't work.

skipping your medications.

self pity, especially when you are by yourself.

JAVA

Thanks Joelbear -- and it's nice hearing from you.