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  More on Prince

  by Mulan in

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  i talked to my jw friend today.

  she and her husband were studied with by larry graham, in california, about 10 years ago, or more.

  i asked if she knew anything about prince being a jw, and she said that their son went to visit the grahams in minnesota a year ago, and met prince at their home, and that he had been studying then, for about a year.

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  The Tower already has a place for him to live--Beth Sarim! He's a little late getting here (76 years late) but better late than never.

  --JAVA

  ...counting time at the Coffee Shop
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  I'm An Adult Today!

  by SanFranciscoJim in

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  today marks the 21st anniversary of my being disfellowshipped.. i suppose that makes me an adult apostate?

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  SanFranciscoJim,

  Now when you celebrate the Memorial at the KH, they can't card you when you chug the wine!

  Happy Anniversary, old man!

  --JAVA

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  Do you appreciate the Watchtower Magazine?

  by Norm in

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  dont you know that there is no more important magazine on the earth today then the watchtower magazine?.

  as we know it is in that very magazine jehovah makes his official notifications to mankind.

  since jehovah apparently isnt at all interested in reaching all of mankind he isnt using tv or radio.

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  JAVA

  I think maybe you are the FDS?!?!?

  
  Oh brother, you're really going to tick Norman off now!

  --JAVA

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  Wow! The look they had on their faces!

  by ianao in

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  witnesses: "why, no sir.

  witnesses: "well, actually sir if...".

  witnesses: "ok sir, but may i just say something?".

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  JAVA

  I don't know where it is anymore, riz. We can only search topic headings, and that's not helping me find it.

  --JAVA

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  Wow! The look they had on their faces!

  by ianao in

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  witnesses: "why, no sir.

  witnesses: "well, actually sir if...".

  witnesses: "ok sir, but may i just say something?".

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  Wendy,

  I am going to have to reply to that.

  
  Good, you didn't disappoint me!
  

  Ianao implied he was a witness that killed an elder! What good is that?

  
  Besides being ridiculously funny, it was an obvious lie (tell me you're not sending posts from jail Ianao, or I'll really be in trouble with Wendy). It's like me telling you, "I'm 8 feet tall," and you reply with, "Oh sure, and I'm 20 feet tall." This JW couple just lied to Ianao by saying, "We are not affiliated with any church at all. We aren't salesman either." Ianao's obvious lie showed disdain towards them because they lied in a deceitful manner.

  No, this couple didn't get down on their knees and admit lying. Perhaps they couldn't even admit lying to themselves, but deep inside they know they were less than honest. Sometimes a obvious lie can expose deceitful lies like theirs. Their lie was far more dishonest and harmful than Ianao's.

  We all react to things differently in life. I just wanted to add how I react when they come to the door. Sorry if I stepped on anyones toes.

  
  You bet, Ianao's time in service might not work for others, but I believe it has shock value that can put a new wrinkle in the flat JW brain. You didn't "step on anyones toes" Windy, we're just kicking around ways to count time when the Witnesses come knocking on doors with Watchtower lies.

  --JAVA

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  Wow! The look they had on their faces!

  by ianao in

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  witnesses: "why, no sir.

  witnesses: "well, actually sir if...".

  witnesses: "ok sir, but may i just say something?".

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  You gave a good witness, ianao! Thanks for the post. I don't see many JWs in my neighborhood anymore. Perhaps it has something to do with offering to go door-to-door with them when they're in the hood.

  Wendy,

  No matter how the JWs are treated, they see themselves as god's little persecuted people on earth. I don't think ianao was rude, he simply beat them at their own game. Instead of allowing them to control the conversation, he contolled it. (JWs can't handle that.) They were uninvited people at his door trying to deceive, sell, and find other suckers to do the same. The best cons are the ones who don't act like cons, and act like old friends. ianao forced them into lying right away, and exposed their deceit. I think he gave them more to think about after the visit, than being nice and rewarding deceitful behavior. Nice or not, JWs engage in dishonest behavior when they knock on doors. They might or might not be sincere, but that's beside the point--they are there to sell and convert, and will lie to do it.
  

  We are not affiliated with any church at all. We aren't salesman either

  The nice couple was lying--treating them as liars might give them something to think about.

  --JAVA

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  Do you appreciate the Watchtower Magazine?

  by Norm in

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  dont you know that there is no more important magazine on the earth today then the watchtower magazine?.

  as we know it is in that very magazine jehovah makes his official notifications to mankind.

  since jehovah apparently isnt at all interested in reaching all of mankind he isnt using tv or radio.

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  JAVA

  Hey Norm; you did it again--another great post!

  I remember one of the boot-licking JWs in our congregation showing the proper respect for The Watchtower magazines. When the Circuit Servant visited the congregation, this guy invited him to his house for an evening meal. I was the PO at that time, so he invited me too, in order to make a good showing (he was trying to become an elder).

  When we arrived at his house he acted like he was just getting mail out of the mailbox, and wouldn't you know, the lattest issue of the WT arrived. He put on this little show of quickly opening the WT and thoughtfully looked at the Table of Contents. Then he looked at us and said, "Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to ignore you. I just can't wait seeing the spiritual food offered in each issue!" I don't believe fishing boots are made high enough for the load of crap he was dropping!

  --JAVA

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  'Messiah' Has Lawsuit Dismissed

  by JAVA in

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  something to read while enjoying your morning coffee:.

  crime blotter 5/9/01.

  parked while drunk; 'messiah' has lawsuit dismissed.

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  JAVA

  Something to read while enjoying your morning coffee:

  Crime Blotter 5/9/01
  Parked While Drunk; 'Messiah' Has Lawsuit Dismissed
  ABC News.Com

  At http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/crimeblotter.html

  'Messiah' Gets No Respect

  B A Y C I T Y, Mich. It would have taken a miracle for convicted robber Chad Gabriel DeKoven to win his lawsuit demanding he be recognized as "Messiah-God," released from prison, and given millions of tons of gold and silver.

  Michigan District Court Judge David M. Lawson dismissed the convicted armed robber's suit, calling it "patently frivolous, implausible, unsubstantial and devoid of merit."

  In his 200-page court filing, DeKoven also demanded a full pardon, public acknowledgement from Israel that he is King of Jews, peace in the Middle East, safe passage for Osama bin Laden, and the return to the United States of all American military personnel within 90 days.

  Additionally, he asked for thousands of animals such as bison, fish and mollusks.

  The judge, however, was unmoved by DeKoven "scientific" proof he was God.

  "The plaintiff's overwrought attempts to judicially establish 'scientifically' through numerology, symbolic name analysis, and sheer repetitive assertion that he is the Messiah or Messiah-God are unconvincing and clearly baseless," Lawson wrote.

  "The plaintiff has no constitutional right to be recognized and treated as the "Messiah-God" or any other holy, extra-worldly, or supernatural being or power," he concluded.

  --JAVA

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  Field Service is Officially Over Forever!

  by professor in

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  i hereby urge every single one of jehovah's witnesses nationwide to stop going out in field service!

  according to the january 1, 1989 watchtower, our obligation to field service officially ended last year!:.

  the apostle paul was spearheading the christian missionary activity.

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  professor,

  The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century. WT 01/01/89 p. 12

  I'm at the office and don't have my '95 WT CD, but I believe the Tower took out the words "20th century," and replaced it with something generic on the CD and bound volume. Of course the Tower is dishonest and didn't indicate their little revision from the actual WT to the CD and bound volume. Most JWs don't keep the single issues, thus the Tower tries to hide their dirty little secretes.

  --JAVA

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  The "humble" man

  by Norm in

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  the watchtower society must indeed suffer from a severe lack of humble people.. in their search for an example of humility and humbleness they actually name their second president, j. f. rutherford, a man still known for his complete lack of anything resembling humility.

  hoping for the usual total ignorance among the r&f the watchtower wrote this:.

  *** w93 2/1 19 what godly subjection requires of us ***.

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  Norm,

  (If the people on Jehovah's Witnesses.com is interested I can post an article I have written about this quite interesting incident)

  Thanks, I would love to see it.

  Java--of the "Humble and Proud of It" class

  --JAVA

  ...counting time at the Coffee Shop