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  How do I get them to stop houding me?

  by lostinthought in

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  i stopped attending all meetings this summer.

  i prefer not to be dfed or to da myself.

  i just want to be inactive.

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  tiki

  I really think the best thing to do is to ignore. If you have numbers you can block on your phone, email ,etc......do it. or simply just not be there. constant hounding is totally aggravating and the extent of it depends on the type of people you are dealing with. I think Flipper nails it in his responses. There are those who simply have no concept of boundaries. They get the idea that since you were a part of the group at one time they have some sort of hold on you and it just isn't true. I know of one individual who actually - heard it with my own ears - said to my husband that he was HURT and OFFENDED because he (hubby) no longer went to meetings and commented. seems he really enjoyed my husband's comments (which made me cringe at times because he never really fully bought into it) but, hang in there......do what you like and feel right about and ignore them.....

  good luck!
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  My Walmart encounter with the dubs today

  by poppers in

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  yup, there were 3 of them camped out in front of the store with their display of materials - first time i've seen them there.

  he said he converted 5 years ago from the presbyterians, and that he had learned more in 1 year with the jws than all his time with the presbyterians (the usual stuff, jesus died on a stake, paradise earth, etc).

  he claimed he didn't know about the invisible return of jesus, he was dismissive of the impact of disfellowshipping and that people can leave with little consequence, he claimed that the romans didn't use a cross until 200 years after jesus died on the stake.

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  that is bizarre! the whole thing centers around the end of the world as we know it - their exclusivce survival through armageddon! how weird....
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  How did you spend your Saturdays?

  by MissConfused in

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  it's been 3 weeks and every weekend is so much fun, spending quality time with real friends who dont pretend... last week was bbq, this sat was potluck, next one is long weekend away from home... all in all love my life again.... how was your saturday?

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  sleep until i want to get up....do a wash.....go grocery shopping, errands, etc....

  hang around on my beautiful deck......drink wine.....watch guy fieri make the rounds......

  work all week - love quiet weekends at home with my lover and my felines.
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  Times articles about JW's

  by zound in

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  2. bible

  i found a bunch of old time articles about rutherford, fred franz, shunning etc.

  only problem is you need to be a time's subscriber to download the full articles.

  anyone on here that subscribes could you download them and share?.

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  tiki

  the rutherford thing.....oh my word.............what a lunatic!
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  What Congregation should you attend?

  by Quarterback in

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  can someone, please, help me in finding this?.

  i remember in a kingdom ministry, written quite some time, ago.. it mentioned that it was upto the individual family to determine what congregation they would attend, based on their own circumstances.

  they wouldn't be subjected to determined boundaries.. does anyone remember that one, and where it exists?.

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  i don't clearly recall the directive - but the idea was that if you were a real faithful "with-it"type, you would obediently go to the cong who had the territory assignment including where you lived.... an awful lot of people did not follow the directive though....i know of elders extended families who insisted on going to the cong where patriarch elder served - no matter if they lived one/two three congs over and no one blinked an eye....who you are i guess figures into the picture in reality.

  i do think there was something in the KM at some point about it though....
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  Last night the one cool elder calls me

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. experiences

  i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.

  after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.

  he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.

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  the more i read and observe about the goings-on, the more it seems to me that the org is structurally disintegrating. it seems that congs and elders all have their own agendas....some loose, some tight, liberality vs. conservative by the "books".....i remember when i was a kid and my father was an elder how they'd pat themselves on the back that they were "running a tight ship" and that our cong supposedly stood out in the circuit as being up to snuff. how true that all was i have no idea....but nowadays from what i see here that those who are having dealings with current elders/bodies are apt to see anything from sheer negligence to tortourous stalking. very weird indeed - but apparently what you go through depends on the local group and their feelings/attitudes.
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  Publisher Attendance Records

  by Lozza Aussie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at meeting the other night and happen to notice an elder with a sheet of paper with the title of the above post.

  it appears to have been composed on a computer, not a form printed by the org.

  on it were all the names of the people in this particular elders group and there were columns for the days of the week when we have our meetings.

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  micro-management. and then he could find out why the absences and color code them in varying levels of credibility. Like, pale pink = they had a headache/stomachache - lousy excuse; hot pink = they had to work - losing sight of prime importance of meetings over making a living; red = hospitalized in traction - okay, but somebody better tape the meeting for them to listen to. and the ultimate black mark just not there and don't give a dammm.

  maybe the poor dude is just wicked bored with the same ole stuff day in and day out and this is his means of amusement. hahhaha.....i used to count how many times people commented in WT studies....and grade them on meaningfulness. most were pretty lame....
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  Need Help - Looks like some one in my family got to know that we are fading...

  by MissConfused in

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  letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.

  pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.

  he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.

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  100% in agreement with OnTheWayOut and Exwhyzee. These stories are very cleverly designed to pull at the heartstrings and misinterpret reality. A wolf is a wolf is a wolf...a different kind of dog altogether.

  Soppy sentimentaility is what it is appealing to....and that is not realistic....but there is a type of mentality that just sops it up eagerly.
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  Another story... possibly final story

  by confusedandalone in

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  this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.

  it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.

  i feel free today.

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  confusedandalone - your responses are neither confused nor are you alone! you were so spot on with your bro - and just so realistic. i found it comical to read that someone would have such warped thinking! they really seriously honestly believe that the almighty of the universe is worried about someone d-fed giving them money so they have to bilk it out of them while they are in "good standing"????? that is totally ridiculous, ludicrous and crazy. money is money is money. it's not like it would be coming from laundered drug money! ayiyiy.............you do what you have to do......what you feel is right and what you are comfortable with.....but in no way are you responsible to bail anyone out of a fiscal mess they put themselves in by making bad decisions.

  i'd love to hear judge judy on this one.........like if you loaned the $$ to them and they never paid and you got on tv with the case.........what a riot! but only us mentally diseased ones would get it...................

  stick to your guns, man!
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  Interview of a sister - Friday morning at the District Convention

  by Red Piller in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from my memory and shortened for highlights [my comments in brackets.

  i found the whole interview astonishing]:.

  "sister x-, you've been a baptized servant of jehovah since 1972.. you must have seen a lot since that time".

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  tiki

  Outlaw - that is HILARIOUS! gotta love those chicken legs..............haaaaaaaa clap clap clap