Posts by tiki

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I Wonder if Tight Pants Tony Helped to Write this on Sobriety in between sips of malt

by Slidin Fast in

from the official agm report: are you completely sober?.

brother geoffrey jackson made practical application of texts in the christian greek scriptures that use a term that literally means “sober.” he also stressed the importance of continuing to ‘keep our senses completely’ (literally “being sober perfectly”) during these last days.—1 peter 1:13.. .

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tiki

That guy looks so nuts.....just looking at him I can't imagine taking him seriously.

I came from a cong that had a lot of (recovered) alcoholics and they were ridiculous about those who drank....some including a particularly obnoxious elder would go around sniffing breath and accusing their targets with the I smell ALKahall... Some wouldn't accept an invitation into the home of those who were normal about booze because they might see a wine rack or something. It was beyond ridiculous. So...any talk with the word sober I am sure will kick off some fanatics in the group.....whatever...

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November 2019 Watchtower (Would love to hear the comments in the hall)

by pleaseresearch in

from the november 2019 watchtower study edition.. how many of you would like to know what the brothers and sisters would respond to this question.

also, if you went into a hall how would you like to respond to the question.. 8. how should we respond to lies?.

8 satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.

tiki

Funny how all those pedophile cases have ended up in courts of law ....being nothing but lies and fallacies. The judicial system must really be off...awarding settlements to alleged victims. And that whole Australian inquiry and all the testimony...wow. That was all untrue? Perhaps it never even happened!!!

None so blind as he who will not see.....

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2019-October 8, BOE!

by Atlantis in

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2019-10-08 boe.

supporting the congregation as a pioneer.

https://docdro.id/sf2rkwx.

tiki

Oh boy...hah...I remember that assist program. And I remember that it was highly insulting as there were some pretty dumb and inept real work dodgers who fashioned themselves "pioneers".....they were the ones needing sprucing up.

In my immature and illadvised youth I was on the Pioneer list for 9 months...I quit as they were about to kick me off for not having the requisite 7 bible studies and showing my knees....but in those months I was treated like royalty...all for having that title and wasting precious hours of life. Jesus said all of you are brothers...peers...equals in other words. So their setting people apart and above is decidedly not following Jesus pattern.

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why do jws hate pagans?

by nowawake14 in

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paganism from my view is just a mental fantasy.

it's not real.

so why do jws get mad at it anyway?

tiki

It is just a word with a negative connotation they love to toss around...anyone or anything not them is pagan. It reinforces their notion that they alone are loved and blessed by God.

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Where are the funds going to come from? Warwick Expansion

by HiddenPimo in

so with the news that they are remodeling patterson and expanding warwick, where are the funds going to come from?.

could this be a ruse like the need for thousands of kingdom halls proclaimed a few years back only to be replaced with the we realized the halls were not at capacity and the great sell-off began?.

maybe the hope is going to be that the sheep will give give give and then all of the sudden, after prayerful consideration the gb have determined that the current resources are sufficient to create the needed media and content.. my bet is that in 10 years it will all be consolidated to warwick and walkill and patterson will be sold to who i have no idea, but they own a ton of property in upstate ny..

tiki

It's just a money grubbing corporation operating behind a sham religion. And the real owners are damn cagey and keep their assets very well secured. I don't believe it began this way actually...I think Russell was just a very imaginative decent type...Rutherford a boisterous boozing shiester...then Knorr came along and the religious aspect remained primary...somewhere along the line though the cult gradually turned into a front. Just my ideas.....how, when, who...the thing is now the entity is run by a totally unscrupulous unethical bunch and this to the detriment of those persuaded by its "biblical" pronouncements.

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What would happen if Jepthas daughter disobeyed and got married anyway?

by nowawake14 in

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would jehovah kill her?

or would she be shunned by her religion as a whole?

say anything you would think of..

tiki

Desirous....not saying it is right or wrong...i personally believe that the patriarchal arrangement is archaic and demeaning to women. I believe humans should be on equal footing as regards rights, dignity, and respect. Also that whatever choices a man or a woman makes regarding their career, lifestyle etc is their personal responsibility and privilege. A biblical type patriarchal society does not allow females those rights or options.

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Today's Watchtower Study Oct 6th

by BluesBrother in

todays study article for 6th october discusses 2 cor 4 " we do not give up.".

in the race for life christians must not give up or be distracted by , among other things, postponed expectations .

hmm, what is the difference between expectations, predictions or prophecy?

tiki

Ding....perfect song idea!!! Thanks for the laugh!!

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What would happen if Jepthas daughter disobeyed and got married anyway?

by nowawake14 in

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friends

would jehovah kill her?

or would she be shunned by her religion as a whole?

say anything you would think of..

tiki

The patriarchal society....oldest adult male...head honcho...younger adult males, esp firstborn next...male children next stop on the totem pole...then adult women...female child the lowest in human terms. Whatever the story the female child had no rights. All they were to do is arrive at child bearing years and birth babies preferably male. In this story the female child never got to that highlight in her life.

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

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the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

tiki

Stopped at a red light yesterday...by a small park and there was one of the propaganda displays...manned by a beer bellied male in a raucous coral pink shirt and a sadly attired woman...like a refugee from a poverty stricken part of Siberia...but the kicker was their faces. Scowls like you can't imagine...they just looked like they were angrily breathing hatred. Seems to me the happifying message would or should generate a friendlier facial expression.....

And...if it is an honor to be allowed to stand by, why such angst?

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What would happen if Jepthas daughter disobeyed and got married anyway?

by nowawake14 in

jw
friends

would jehovah kill her?

or would she be shunned by her religion as a whole?

say anything you would think of..

tiki

A lot of questions surrounding that story....what really was the "sacrifice" for starters. And assuming the characters were real historical beings and details presented factual...given the patriarchal society and a female child being the lowest in value as a human, I doubt the girl had any choices. So very sad the misery humanity has endured through the ages...