I never agreed with shunning coming into the lie in my late twenties it always seemed barbaric. Grown men and women turning their heads away from you if they were d/f and you saw them in the street. D/F daughters not being allowed to sit in your company, very cruel and the best bit was you never knew what they were D/F for and they hadn,t done anything personally to me. One sis I saw in a health clinic broke down and cried when I saw her. I went to her to give her some comfort. I related to an elder about how disgusting this treatment was breaking down families etc. To my surprise he agreed with me said that he didn,t like sitting on J/C where he had to do it, but they had to keep the cong clean (hogwash) You think if some of the elders didn`t like it they would open their eyes to this harsh treatment and see the org for what it is.
yellow
JoinedPosts by yellow
-
17
No natural affection? Jehovahs Witnesses fulfill this scripture
by jambon1 inanyone who can turn their back on their flesh & blood sons and daughters, mothers and fathers fulfill this prophecy perfectly.. people who do this are utterly unloving & cruel.
it has lead thousands of people to feel issolated, alone & in many cases suicidal.
how can such a thing originate with god?.
-
-
-
15
"Put Jehovah First...." what does this mean? Anyone?
by HappyGuy ini was baptized at the age of 15, my father was very opposed.
i loved god and wanted to be a spiritual person.
so, anything in the literature which told one how to be a spiritual person was of great interest to me.. i remember hearing and reading this phrase over and over and over again "put jehovah first".. don't get an education - "put jehovah first".. don't take that emt certification course that meets on tue and thursday for 6 weeks - "put jehovah first".. don't get a real career, be a janitor and "put jehovah first".. don't spend time with your "worldly" parents on the weekends, instead abandon them and fill your time up with field service and meetings and "put jehovah first".. .
-
-
yellow
It means don,t have any life whatsoever outside of the mindset of the borg, think breathe nothing else and if you do you this you will get the blessings, unfortunately they never seem to come.
-
9
Old WT Literature
by yellow ini,ve got old bound wt,s awakes and other books and mags dating back to the early 50's, it's taking up quite a bit of space and i don't know what to do with it.
i had thought of setting it alight but i'm not sure if it would burn, it would also be a waste of a perfectly good match.
could anybody give me any ideas please..
-
-
yellow
I,ve got old bound WT,s Awakes and other books and mags dating back to the early 50's, it's taking up quite a bit of space and I don't know what to do with it. I had thought of setting it alight but I'm not sure if it would burn, it would also be a waste of a perfectly good match. Could anybody give me any ideas please.
-
32
Did you ever think you would end up here?
by highdose inmeaning... on this website, no longer a jw or at least no longer beliving anymore?
i never did, even 18 months ago it would have seemed impossible, unthinkable.
even though looking back the seeds of doubt had been sown for some time, i just never allowed myself to think about them... vvv dangerous thing to do!.
-
-
yellow
i thought i,d be struck by lightening, felt very very very guilty!! Now i,m so glad i did
-
25
Inability to develop close connections with others
by Lemon_Lime_Shasta inhi all, i'm still pretty new here, but i wanted to talk about something more substansive than low quality generic soda brands (my first post and my logon name).. of all the negative side effects of my dub past, the one that still haunts me the most is my complete inability to develop any sort of depth in my relationships with others.
i'm not one to blame all my personal problems on the wbts, but i can't help but feel that it was a significant contributing factor.
i still hate talking about my past, and i work very hard to hide all aspects of my jw past from anyone i meet.
-
-
yellow
I sympathise with you Lemon-Lime-Shasta I'm in the same situation as yourself haven recently got out. I joined as an adult and through time I noticed the lack of depth, insincerity and superficialness of a lot of witnesses. Through time I recognized I was developing these traits myself and I hated it. I'm now working on this it aint easy but its getting better. Going to clubs and mixing with others its slowly wearing off and i'm getting my personality back.
-
18
sex bad! sex bad!!!
by highdose injust remembered some insane old laws that were preached from the platform when i was in:.
jazz: is a slang word for sex, therefore jazz is not for christians ( jw's).
rock and roll: ditto it describes sex therefore is bad.
-
-
yellow
I agree with DaCheech why were we created with this beautiful gift and then deny it to ourselves. Which can make you terribly frustrated.
Sex when given in a loving relationship is a beautiful thing. When I was a J/W I spent the night with a guy, Feeling overcome with guilt I prayed for forgiveness asking why he had made us like this only to be told it was wrong? I was so overcome with guilt I was sent to the back room only to be d/f for only having normal desires.
-
13
Witness funeral used to spread "Watchtower Propaganda".....worldly family left OUT!
by Witness 007 innow that my "eyes are open" i was amazed as i sat at a brothers funeral {he died due to lukemia/not taking blood} the elder mentioned his "spiritual" acomplishments for 20 minutes, his worldly acomplishments like creating a home buisness from scratch and employing his whole family was mentioned in one sentence.
and worst...his worldly family was barely mentioned...he did not mention he was the son of so and so {worldly folks} this was commented on afterwards by worldly friends!???
too much time was spent talking about paradise and the hopes he had etc etc...same old bible verses that were done to death.....blah blah......we may as well have been at a communist party meeting!
-
-
yellow
At my mothers funeral (a non j/w are as all my family) a few of the bros came including one of the elders, I thought that this would give me at least a little comfort. The minister (a family friend) gave a very nice upbuilding talk about my mother, her life and family it was more about the celebration of a life than a religious funeral, although the minister did talk about a heavenly hope awaiting my mother. After the service the only thing this elder could say was don't they ministers talk a lot of rubbish, no words of comfort I was very angry and disappointed. I received very little condolences from the bros at the hall one sister saying at least she has the hope of the resurrection. Where is the love?
-
90
List of family/friends lost to the Watchtower cult? (suicides)
by hubert inafter reading about puternuts (ari) suicide, and also reading about sabine and js losing their daughter to this cult, i think it would be a fitting memorial, so to speak, to write a list of all the people we know who died because of this cult.
i also know that cruzanheart lost her dad to it, too.
i'm sure there are many here that can make a list of suicides brought on by the shunning/threatening policies of the watchtower cult.
-
-
yellow
I had suicide thoughts all day whilst with 40 of the "friends" on a trip to bethel. Despite the assurances of some who knew I was unwell. On the return journey I was desperatly trying to open the door of a speeding train No friends to be seen I cried and sobbed my heart out for hours on that train. A sis in our cong committed suicide a few years back plus their are others I know of who have had suicidal thoughts and attempted it. Im out now and extremely happy.
-
-
-
yellow
i was deemed unfit even to clean the toilets!
-
66
Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?
by flipper ini thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.
the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.
so what is your story and reasons ?
-
-
yellow
I tried to D/A a few months ago after a few visits and calls from elders I was talked out of it. I attended a few meetings putting on a pretence and never being truly happy I had planned on fading away. After not attending the DA I was visited by a few bros trying to guilt trip me again and asking why I didn't go to assembly, I said I hadn't been well and was told by them so and so went for 3 days and she hasn't been well. I said if that works for her good I hope she enjoyed it. I used to think that way too but i,m not going to make myself seriously ill as three days attendance at D/A is enough to make anybody ill. You should have seen the looks I got!
I was wondering how was I going to get out of this without having the harrassment factor. Manna came from heaven and I was asked to go and live abroad for a few months. I did a lot of serious thinking on how to plan my exit. A relative whose wife was a J/w told me "these people are controlling your life, they are telling you what to say, think and do they are taking away your ability to think and reason for yourself" It really hit me then. He had no knowledge of cults and how they operate yet he could reason this out for himself.
After returning home I had a few gifts to give to people at the hall. A bro had been d/f the same night, I was upset and decided ther and then this is my last meeting I'm never coming back. I wrote my d/a letter a few days later and told them not to call me it was my final decision and to respect it. Of course they called back and asked if I wanted "help" I said no i'm ver y happy. It was announced 2 weeks later.