Posts by babygirl30

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Women as second class citizens

by iMARX in

i don't know about anyone else, but even when i was 14 or 15 i had an issue with the fact that women are weaker vessels than men and we are to be submissive to our "head" of the house etc.... people just assumed i was a moody teenager trying to be cool by disagreeing with those scriptures but i was a feminist in the making.. i even asked an elder's wife about it and i said to her: "you're a headstrong woman, how do you feel about this?

do you think you should succumb to paul's every word and do as he says all the time??".

she replied: "i hate that scripture too sarah.

babygirl30

Now as far as the Bible says about respecting each other and treating each other with love (in a marriage) I AGREE with that! No matter who u r or what religious beliefs u have - respect is the name of the game!!! Where I do NOT agree is where is talks about submission...numerous talks have been given about how submission is 'not degrading' or the brother will claim it's not a form of 'slavery' - but I fail to understand how submission is anything other then the expectation that a woman is to completely LISTEN TO her husband. As a woman, I'm not some low level human being...I accept that I am may not physically be as strong as a man...I can live with the fact that I am considered more 'emotional' then a man (although in MY case - I beg to differ) - what I cannot live with is that a religion has ordered me as 'sub par'. Being raised in a household with a controlling father who felt his 'girls' needed to do whatever HE said and wanted, being raised in a religion of control where they dictate every move and I make and what 'privileges' I can and cannot have, leaving a relationship with a man who felt that I was his property and that he had the right to 'assault' me until I followed his direction 100% of the time. So tell me WHY in the heck I would want to go BACK to being a JW??????

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Recent assembly

by Iwonder17 in

1) stop using internet,facebook,myspace,email,texting and spend more time studying and in service.. my mate quit their facebook page when we came home lol.

2) maybe i am just more tuned into it now, but they mentioned "apostate" a lot more this time around, espicially when talking about the internet.. it keeps me thinking, if there is nothing to hide, then why is there such a big push not to look?

it's like an ugly girlfriend not wanting her boyfriend to look at the girls on the beach .

babygirl30

The last D.A. I was at (last year) they really pushed for NO Facebook/MySpace/social websites/chatrooms. The reason being that they told everyone that (1) too much time is wasted on those sites when JWs could be studying (2) JWs could end up having unnecessary association with 'worldly' people and form friendships/relationships and (3) pornographic material could be sent/viewed on those sites.

Being OUT now, I realize just how controlling the org is...I mean, telling people NOT to use the internet, to TIME how long they use it (be watchful), immediately click off 'questionable' sites, etc.

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Hillarious "Counsel" from Platform -Classic

by lepermessiah in

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i got this from a close friend -.

this past weekend, the family attended the circus assembly.

i skipped it, and didnt get a hard time for not going, which was a first.. anyway, my family didnt want to tell me about a couple of points from the d.o.

babygirl30

Now THAT is that stuff that makes me mad...because inevitably, whatever is said from the platform - to JWs - is GOLD!!! They hear it and run with it. So ther eis some weakminded JW there saying to their kids 'Oh no more Twighlight - don't watch those movies....don't read those books' UGH!!! All because 1 man who has no idea what that pop culture is about, made a judgement call and wanted to receive 'oooohs and aaaaahs' in his talk.

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Maybe being a Witness wasnt so bad?

by acolytes in

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before i became a witness i was a shallow egotistcal happy go lucky married man.

i owned 2 houses which were rented out.i lived rent free in london working for a rich arab-.

due to being a witness i quit a job and a lifestyle i will never have again.. i now live in sweden with the same wife and have a kid- i can think critically.my good friends are those i met on the ministry (but never converted)-i have good friends from my congregation in england.

babygirl30

My morals...both my parents came from MESSED UP backgrounds, and so I becoming JWs gave them some type of 'purpose' - i'm guessing. Of course since I was raised a JW, it's all I knew, and I admit that if it weren't for the fear of getting DF'd and losing EVERYTHING...I stayed 'clean' for much longer then I ever thought I would've and continue to hold onto that morality. NOT in the rigid sense of JW-land, but in the sense that I respect myself and my sexuality - so I expect whomever I am WITH to do the same.

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New CO 70 yrs old, "youre not doing enough" school. Sigh

by monkeyman in

got our new co. old school guy, 70 yrs old.

mo is "youre all not doing enough".

sigh.. three yrs of this asshole..

babygirl30

Oh my God..70yrs old? Did you get Bro Burdine???? That's the oldest one my old cong ever had. Dude had some 40yr old wife though (and she was NOT very warm or friendly).

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did/do you you belive the examples in the yearbooks?

by highdose in

the ones where the witch doctor surcomes to his own spell that he put on the brothers, or when the 5 drs physicaly force the sister to have the blood transplant?

etc etc where the person was praying and ... ding dong!

there appear the jw's..... can we belive it??

babygirl30

In all my 30yrs of being a JW (raised in) NOT ONCE did I ever read a Yearbook. Had no desire to!

And NO....did not believe the stories in there. I used to call the book "Aesop's Fables Part 2" whenever the latest copy came out - because in my mind, the stories were always too far fetched to be real.

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A CO's diagnosis and counsel

by ldrnomo in

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some time back when i was an elder and expressed my concerns about the blood doctrine to another elder (in confidence) the news got back to the whole body of elders and the co who i will just call (bro.

smith) .

after speaking to me for some time and determining that i did not believe in the wt blood doctrine.

babygirl30

Hi ldrnon

You were 'sick' to that CO (and the org) because you THOUGHT....you used your own reasoning and QUESTIONED things....you had the balls to disagree with the org!! How sad that for thinking/reasoning human beings that God created - we are taught that the very God we worship WANTS us to be ignorant and follow without question.

Then again, I was abused by my ex-fiance (a JW) and when I told the C.O. I was angry and upset about what he did, I was told that i was 'spiritually weak' and that I needed to humble myself and strengthen my relationship with Jehovah. So in all cases, there is never a clear an concise answer - everything falls back on YOU and your relationship with God.

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The show must go on..

by outofthebox in

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i was reading in the spanish forum (http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=15396) that an old sister died from a heart atack during the memorial, but that didn't stop the ritual.

i remember a lonley very sick sister calling for help to the kh during an emergency, and the elders told her, they were busy in an elder's meeting.

she almost died and was rushed into the hospital by 'worldy' people.

babygirl30

I just remember all the D.A.'s at the Vet Stadium in Philadelphia, PA - and how people would literally pass out in their chairs and in the hallways. I recall one year where it was hot as HADES!!!!!!! They continually made the announcement to 'stay out of the hallways as it's a safety hazard' and the brothers would police people who would flat out SIT along the wall in the hallway because at least there was a breeze going through. i vividly remember people just fallin out over the extreme heat...of course nothing stopped and even when ambulances were called in to assist those that were suffering -

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Who officiates JW weddings?

by greenie in

if two jws were in great standing and getting married in a kingdom hall, who would officiate their wedding?

could an elder do the whole thing, or would a justice of the peace have to do part with the talk from the elder?.

babygirl30

Usually a plumber or a window washer.

Now THAT was funny!!!! (because it's soooo true)

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To tell my parents or not to tell my parents...unfortunately that is a question

by feenx in

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i could use some perspective on something i'm struggling with.

first off, a little background info.

i am an only child and my parents, in addition to quite difficult circumstances we've all experienced, both personally and as a family while i was growing up, remain devout.

babygirl30

I agree with what everyone here has said - invite your parents and let the cards fall where they may!! I firmly believe that the BEST way to show these JW's that life outside the org is not going to kill you...is to be HAPPY! You're getting married, you found someone you love and adore, you are goign to start a family - show your parents that no matter what they say or how their shunning has affected you - you are 'ok' and that your life is happy without the org behind you. Better yet, stick a pic of the 2 of you IN their invitation....so they can SEE your happiness.

On another note...your parents sound similar to mine. About 3 mos ago, after having dealings with me for 10mos straight, my parents forbid me to come to their home any longer, took back my key, and told me NOT to call unless it's a life or death matter. apparently both of them going into the hospital (my dad for a mini stroke and my mom for knee surgery) was not important enough for them to contact me and let me KNOW...guess they figure that it would go against their 'shunning' policy. But I know my parents, they are the most UNHAPPY people I've ever met - and what's ironic is that despite being DF'd and NOT having family support or association - I am STILL happy!