http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2002/12/22christmasaholid.html
christmas: a holiday of many hues.
activities range from secular scenes to doing nothing at all .
Blondie:
They are all such hippocrates - they will always have their hands out and grab any gift & then they will tell you they don't celebrate so you understand that you will not be getting anything from them. I agree when I was a small jw I never got gifts all year long. If I did ask for something I was told I was being worldly & selfish.
Since there is nuttin happenin at work today - think I'll go shopping for selfish and wordly gift.
Peace & Joy
elswhere recently started a thread about shunning and i noted that at least ninety per cent of the posters to the thread were from the u.s.of a. and canada and they had had some bad experiences with the problem.. why should this be significant ?.
well it seems to me that the shunning problem in america is far worse than here in the u.k. i know of several persons who have been dissed but i am not aware that shunning is a serious issue for them.
can anyone tell me if shunning causes less of a problem here in the u.k. than it does other places in the world, and if so why?.
Isn't the whole attitude more laid back in Europe. It seems to be more open about nudity and mabie that translates into the jw's too. I was so shocked to see naked women on billboards for soap - if it was here the men would probably drive into the signs.
ok so i'm on the phone talking to my friend, when i hear a knock so light i wasn't even sure if it was a knock.... (the doorbell, lighted, works just fine).. i open the door.
two attractive young ladies in their early 20s are standing there, don't even make eye contact.
one reaches into her bookbag and pulls out the lasts watchtower and asnake magazines and proceeds to ramble incoherently for the next 30 seconds.
Lisa:
Thank you for being so brave to tell them the truth about "their truth". I always pity them when they come to the doors, especially the really young children since they can't make up their own minds yet. You gave them a lot to digest. I'm praying they can look at the jw teachings from a different perspective & get out now!
http://www.masslive.com/news/unionnews/index.ssf?/base/living-0/103994100286828.xml
today's news
santa's helpers cheer youngsters .
those jw's always have their grubby hands out. They will never give you a gift, but if you give them one they will rip it from your hands. They are definately the most ungrateful people I've ever seen.
Just wait till you start collecting ornaments and decorations. You will be totally amazed. I have been collecting the retro glass ornaments & I love them. Especially the mangers. They are my absolute favorite. I just love to watch the lights twinkle. Just like I love to watch a crackling fire. Except, when it's in the 70's it's hard to have a fire going - the A/C would have to be on at the same time.
peace baby
something i've wrestled with since i left the organization.
any xdubs out there who are organ donors?
What if my parts ain't no good by the time I'm gone? I think it's a wonderful thing to be able to help others that may need an organ to live. I would definately be an organ donor. Of course, the thought of being chopped up & having parts removed doesn't make me feel too good - I won't know or feel it when I'm gone.
peace baby
my kids have sense we all quit, i never thought they would, i tried so hard to show them they don't need to but shit happen's.
i have also noticed tht a lot of the disfellowshiped ones not all but a lot, have started smoking weed, and seem very easy with the idea, anyone else?
pepperedited by - pepper on 14 december 2002 2:30:21.
Pepper:
A lot of the current jw's know that if they don't tell - they don't get dfs. When I was young I knew of those that smoked and drank (a little more than moderately) and just kept quiet about it. Face it - they are the biggest bunch of gossipers I have ever seen.
The young people are so stiffled and growing up having to dress funny and being so different is not easy with all the peer pressure out there. Bet there is a lot more drug use than is admitted to.
peace baby
in today's copy of the scotsman there's an article on people that don't celebrate christmas for a variety of reasons and sure enough a witness family are featured.
they are spending christmas day on the beach in the canary islands and after pointing out the fact that the 25th is christ's birthday go on to say.
"it would be churlish to say that our children are not affected by peer pressure about christmas, but we feel bigger issues are at stake - independant thought and standing up for what you believe in.
Happy Holidays everybody!
Not celebrating christmas is so so hard on young children. especially when it was taken away after you did celebrate. I was told I was selfish and a bad person for wishing for a gift. Even my hubby may say that their holidays were not always perfect. Not even close to what I remember. The good news is that I am now free! Free to bake and exchange gifts and praise Jesus for all the love he has shown me - unconditionally. What a difference!!
peace & joy
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does anybody have any wbts literature references where it is stated that the "ketchup song" contains "demonic influences".. an ex-jw friend of mine has heard that the wbts has stated this, and it would be very useful it have it confirmed.. thanks.. .
spanner
I liked it, but then I love lots of very unusual tunes too. I only played it twice, so far. Bet I'd like it even more if I knew the words. Mabie somebody can tranlate it for me. If jw hate it - I love it!!!!
peace baby
as i sat quietly in my apartment...staring at the computer screen, i got this overwhelming feeling of being totally alone.
don't get me wrong, i feel comfortable alone.
but, how did i end up this way?
Wick:
Not only did I grow up being a jw but also as an only child. It was so hard to fit in anywhere except that cult when you're a misfit. I don't even believe I fit in with them too well, since I was never invited to the things the other young people did.
To this day I still long for the closeness that I see a lot of siblings share. Being shunned by my mother doesn't help me feel any better about any of it. I thought this was so so many years ago - I never dreamed I'd be dealing with all these jw issues again.
Good thing my hubby constantly reminds me of the good things we have now. I'm kinda bummed out my meetup group isn't getting together this month. DRAT! I really look forward to that.
XXX OOOOO
