Posts by cyberjesus

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ok I have a question for anyone who can answer me about this......

by queenbella in

i divorced my husband for cheating on me that is why i left him.

i came home from visiting family two days early and found him in bed with someone else.

i left him but he blamed me for everything and then when i thought i could go back to the kingdom hall they told me that they called my husband and he said he didnt do anything.

cyberjesus

Perhaps you being out is the best thing you could be. Analyze the religion and test if its worth it to go back. They are under mind control, why do you want to go back?

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The Bible: God's Word or Man's?

by Doug Mason in

my jw visitor left me a copy of the 2006 print of the book "the bible: god's word or man's?

", and i intend to provide him with my analysis of it.. i notice that the book was written in 1989, and the dates of the references suggest the book has not been updated since then.

am i correct?.

Question for ALL ex JW's or those who don't believe everything - (the answers here may help you and your answers may help others)

by EndofMysteries in

please answer the question(s) which corresponds to your current belief, if you believe in a. the bible and god.

b. just god, but no bible c. neither (atheist).

i'm asking for mutual benefit, in my quest for the truth (still a work in progress), some of the things i've run into you may want to think about, and in your answers will show if anything i haven't thought of or checked into yet, as well as all readying this.... (all the hours you've spent, vs just my own, having many combined may bring up a few good things for us all from everyones answers ).

cyberjesus

I am getting to know that I didnt know anything. I was in the same position as you EOM since you believe in God, where did you get the idea of God? from the Bible right? ok well then how bout researching the bible and if it is really inspired by God....

The Bible Unearthed - Finkelstein

Who wrote the Bible- Elliot Friedman

Misquoting Jesus-Ehrman

read and you will unlearn some stuff

best wishes

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Would Witnesses REALLY drink the "Kool-aid" if the faithful slave told them to? Yes or no?

by Witness 007 in

a "spiritual leader" tells his followers the must put on rebok running shoes and "drink the cool-aid" to join a ufo in the tail of a comet and "go to a better world" so, afew dozen young people do just that to get "beamed up" to the mothership.

heavens gate cult 1990's.. my mother says "she is faithful to the organisation till her death" which makes me wonder if they ordered a mass suicide like the reverend jim jones did to escape a "great tribulation"....how many witnesses would really drink the cool-aid?...

without a gun pointed at their head of course!.

cyberjesus

watch this video and post back. Did any of the people there thought they were gonna die? Why did they go there? What were their plans..... they didnt even think of a paradise or coming back to life. In a moment of confusion and panic look at what all they did.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1984081816666746895#

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wondering if I know anyone on this board

by just a reader in

jw
friends

i'm so curious if people from my former hall are on this board.

does anyone post their town?

i'm a bit nervous to mention mine as no one knows the reason for my being inactive after i learned the truth about the truth..

cyberjesus

Uh, NY? I know you. I am sure I know you and I am telling... I know someone who is inactive in NY, and you are baptized thats for sure. Which KH? I'll show you mine if you show me yours :-)

Paranoia is fruit of the spirit :-)

Welcome to the forum

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M. Scott Peck

by leavingwt in

jw
friends

his thoughts on honesty and love were very helpful to me.

i was able to better understand myself and those around me.

i didn't read the final portion of his book on religion, as i quickly lost interest.. however, just today, i read an interview with dr. peck from a few years ago.

cyberjesus

Oh brother. I read the Road Less Traveled and I liked it. But now he went bananas. That tells you that even sound minds can go JW I mean crazy too

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Goodbye! .....Sort of

by cantleave in

jw
friends

i've been on here nearly a year and i believe it is time to move on.. i think i know what i want out of life.

i have been spending less time on here and am now back in full time employment (not on a consultancy basis - but properly employed!)..

i need to think about building a career and consider the future, build a retirement fund, reduce my debts and pay off my mortgage.

cyberjesus

goodbye! enjoy the freedom

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Great Crowd or narrow path?

by Catmancoop in

in jesus sermon on the mount, he speaks of a narrow path that few will find, yet jw's teach of a great crowd, which no one will be able to number....the number currently is just over 7 million....so what gives?

is it a small number of people or a great crowd?.

cyberjesus

With so many people leaving they really dont have a clue how many people are really in it. :-)

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Juridical question

by kaffeburk in

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somebody i know have gotten into some problem and have to face a committee.

the issue is hes being late in repaying a tiny sum of money (about 200 us dollar) he previously lent from a brother.

cyberjesus

if you owe the money to a brother let him take you to court and then go to the elders. hahah they would inmediately try to talk the brother out of suing you. That happened to me, I lend money to a dude and had to take him to court....yes they tried to make a JC out of it.. the funny thing? it was me who was in the hot seat for taking my bro to court. I was MS and they threaten to remove me from the post.

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Would Witnesses REALLY drink the "Kool-aid" if the faithful slave told them to? Yes or no?

by Witness 007 in

a "spiritual leader" tells his followers the must put on rebok running shoes and "drink the cool-aid" to join a ufo in the tail of a comet and "go to a better world" so, afew dozen young people do just that to get "beamed up" to the mothership.

heavens gate cult 1990's.. my mother says "she is faithful to the organisation till her death" which makes me wonder if they ordered a mass suicide like the reverend jim jones did to escape a "great tribulation"....how many witnesses would really drink the cool-aid?...

without a gun pointed at their head of course!.

cyberjesus

If you were willing to give you life by not taking blood at some point. or by going to dangerous assignments then the answer is yes. I was sold on the idea that Jah Jah would give me back life and I trusted the GB so yes I would have and I think most JW would do too.

As a matter of fact there was a point when I felt so guilty and so unable to followed the rules that I wish I had a chance to demostrate to Joroba that I would give my life for him.

ALL faithful JW are under mind control so all of them would listen and obey. In the nazi germany regular, normal people obeyed their leader. All it took was a good emotional speaker that would move them to action. Imagine if they were a part of a mind control cult? then they would have done even more.

Have you seen the milgram experiment? I think over 80% of regular people would follow orders from an authority figure. How about the ash experiment? we also tend to agree with the group even if we disagree with the answer.

Now put all these factors together..... Authority obedience, group conformity, charismatic attraction plus being under mind control..... There is your answer. Any person who believes in their blood doctrine has already drank the kool-aid. We at some point already said yes. Thankfully we woke up before we had to take our lives.

Now would the WT ask us to do so... Maybe not right now but I dont discard the possiblity that in the future they would get new light to speed up the Armageddon or to reduce suffering or to avoid failing to Satan.

Thats the reality we like it or not.