Well I was born a dubbed. So my personality traits were fostered by the WT environment. However I feel that always being labeld as wanting to be always right or as if God himself was speaking. I dont even notice that. In my own head I think I listen and try to be humble. But I seem to always know the right answer for everything. Could they be right? Does the feeling of having the truth translates to all aspects of our life?
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I have read in several posts other members who fail to have a succesful relationship outside of the WT. I have been out for several years but still dubbed by the WT.
In every single ocassion although I have had several realtionships I notice that I always saw them as not being able to fit the higher standards we had regarding in the borg regarding : honesty, modesty, associations with the opposite sex. I always imposed my freaking beliefs on them regarding what to wear or what not to wear because it wasnt appropiate, the feeling that to be honest you have to say the truth always. the fact that they shouldnt be spending time in a room alone with the opposite sex. the request for respect for me as a man, etc etc.
Seems like I treated them as we were in the Borg and they should behave otherwise God would dissaprove of them. Now I am out and they always seem to see me as judgmental sometimes abusive in my speach "since I probably said somethings were inappropiate or inmoral". and I always felt that they werent behaving good enough up to my standards.
Now that I dont believe in the bible and that I am attempting to re-write my moral standards find myself a little bit lost regarding my standards and my expectations in a relationships. What things are appropiate are what are not since I allowed the WT to tell me what is good or bad.
Although now I respect sexual orientation I realized I have very little tolerance regarding the way I get treated by people specially in relationships. Has anyone found the same way?
My current girlfriend accused me of trying to make her feel guilty of her actions. Is this another side effect of the brain washing? Have you found yourself in similar situations?
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DISHONEST debates and discussions are everywhere!
by Terry inpeople don't listen when you talk to them.
ever notice that?.
the silence while you are speaking isn't listening.
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But why do you debate? to learn? to teach? to expose? I think the problem is that while we want to debate to expose our thoughts and test them most of the time people debate to prove their points rather than to find a truth.
Coming to a debate with the idea that we know the reality really blocks our progress even if we win the debate. Coming to the debate with the premise we dont know all the facts but only the ones we know leaves us open to the possibilities of learning other points that might provide more light.
the key to progress is to come to a debate with the mind set of not knowing willing to learn rather than willing to teach.
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DISHONEST debates and discussions are everywhere!
by Terry inpeople don't listen when you talk to them.
ever notice that?.
the silence while you are speaking isn't listening.
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cyberjesus
I love to disagree... it makes me think. I love to be wrong, it makes me think.
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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cyberjesus
TERRY,
Thank you for helping in changing my tires. Your posts and reasonings and questions are ALWAYS appreciated by this old lady :-)
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If we evolved..why in big sudden steps and not gradually?
by cyberjesus inok so if we adapted and evolved then we would have a lot of evidence of our predecessors right?
and not only a couple of hard to identify skeletons, why havent we found hundreds of bones, bones or remains of tribes of our predecessors?
why such big steps in evolution and not gradaully evolving steps?
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cyberjesus
THANK YOU ALL GUYS FOR YOUR POSTS:
Leo: You are amazing!
Villa: "Please read some books or at least some science magazines before making such judgments." I did, or i thought I did. I read 35 years worth of the best science magazine "AWAKE" and was forbidden by my religion to read anyother magazine because they came from the "devil" it just happens that I just left that religion 6months ago and have so many questions. Unfortunatedly I use those first 6months researching why the WT was wrong, then why the bible was wrong and now im in the process of searching my new questions. So i apoligize for making those "judgements" maybe I should keep my mouth shout like when I was a JW or like many other XJW who still want to believe in GOD. Or maybe I posted on the wrong website but the last time I checked this was for x-JWs ..... ok .. I like you though :-)
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If we evolved..why in big sudden steps and not gradually?
by cyberjesus inok so if we adapted and evolved then we would have a lot of evidence of our predecessors right?
and not only a couple of hard to identify skeletons, why havent we found hundreds of bones, bones or remains of tribes of our predecessors?
why such big steps in evolution and not gradaully evolving steps?
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Ok so if we adapted and evolved then we would have a lot of evidence of our predecessors right? and not only a couple of hard to identify skeletons, why havent we found hundreds of bones, bones or remains of tribes of our predecessors? Why such big steps in evolution and not gradaully evolving steps? If we havent evolved physically in thousands of years shouldnt be there evidence of intermediate degrees of human evolution?
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For non theists : What is the conscience and does it really matter?
by cyberjesus insince we dont believe in a set of moral standards based on the desires of a powerful god, on what do you base your conscience?
"how do you define it?
and if at the end of everything we are going to die, why does it matter to have a conscience?
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cyberjesus
thanks for the videos guys
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For non theists: Stages of evolution, can we develop wings?
by cyberjesus inif the evolution of life is defined by adapting to a need and life develops as it is needed.
what if decide to live in trees and jumping from them everytime.
does it mean that we could eventually develop wings?
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Thanks Missing link