I accually feel sorry for anyone trapped in this cult ok!They have deified the watchtower/governing body above Jesus and Jehovah.This expanded generation is utter foolishness and a blasphemy of the holy bible/spirit!Don't forget the 1985 baptisimal vow change of the 2nd vow either,when vowing to dedicate yourself to the holy spirit was removed and replaced with the lords visible organization!I wonder how Jesus feels about this,sinful earthly people blocking out his own written words,and inserting their own?Does not matt 28:19+20 say,,,,,,,,go therefore and baptize ,,,in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit?,,,i don't see written in these verses ,,,,the lords visible organization...!This was seemingly done to legally prevent the possible law suits against the society from a DF. witness for sueing for defamation of character,when they are shunned?If i have mis spelled some words here people ,i am sorry,as i have been out of school for 40 years ok!
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Is the Watchtower shy about repeating their new "generation" teaching?
by slimboyfat inas i recall in the 1980s talks and watchtower literature, magazines and books were always talking about the "generation" teaching and how it proved armageddon was going to come any day now.. but am i correct in thinking they have only actually mentioned the new "overlapping generations" teaching once or twice in the literature?
why are they so shy about talking about their great new interpretation?
it's almost enough to make you suspect they are a embarrassed about it.. mention it once or twice, don't dwell on it, hope everyone just accepts it, and don't bring it up again.
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my DF-ing letter - opinions
by raxxxx into the body of elders in xxxxx.. .
i no longer wish to recognised as one of the jehovah's witnesses due to the fact that i no longer believe that this 'organisation' is truly representing him because :.
i have experienced greater and unconditional love/friendship with the people i am supposed to hate 'worldly people' than i did in this congregation.
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Why send a letter??????????Law school 101 class says,,,,,,,,,,,never put anything in writing.I suppose their are special circumstances where this might be appropiate but for the most part,are you not playing right into their hands?You could just leave and go off and do your own thing!
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New Light
by Spade ini've noticed quite a few dissidents of jehovah's organization that have left with some fixation on jehovah's witnesses concept of new light.
i really don't understand.
the antiquity of religion may be historically educational, but not always personally illuminating.
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witchtowerwitch
Hello to all,yes it is me the (witchtowerwitch) again,after many years of silence.I have returned to shed some NEW LIGHT on the watchtower!First,Jesus said that all who followed him would be hated and persecuted greatly...............!Then why has their been total silence to this religion here in the USA for decades now?Surely by now as millions of their young members surf the net and find the truth about the truth and leave,it must be pissing the fuck out of brooklyn,nyc = HQs GB right?Is that not a major red flag to all about this religions endless lies?But they state over and over again,,,,we are the only true religion on the face of the earth preaching the good news to all,do they not?Who then is the faithfull slave??????????It seems to me that many witnesses around the USA and across the world have become wealthy and integrated into satans system of things,and their is no longer a need to be hated or persecuted,because clearly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they are not the true religion.This church is rich with billions of dollars,just like all of the rest of them.I thought their was a war that broke out in heaven in their famous year date of 1914 when the devil was cast to the earth with 330 million demons to ruin everyone and attack all the holy ones down here = JWs?So where is the war?I do not see any such attacks agains this outfit anymore!It isn't just because they have all had it to good for too long or too rich and fat,but it is because they have all become corrupted and now you can not tell the difference between them or anyone else ok!Did they all sell their souls to the devil i wonder,to keep him from warring against them?Oh yeah,their is some persecution popping up in low life countries here and there,but over all,all is quite for the most part!Second when we see that after 20 failed Armageddon dates since the 1880s until now,and the expanded 1914 generation = new light/lies as their answer as to why the end has not come yet,do all of you realize that the 1914 generation that Jesus talked about is all dead people?I do not trust a religion that has a 100% prophecy failer rate,do you?Anyway,,,,,,,,,,the HQs GB is desperately trying to erase their foolish 1914 date so bad,but their no way of doing this without losing 7 million JWs to the world .For you see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,every prophecy written in their literature from Russel to today 2012 is based on the 1914 date.It is the only foundation block that the whole organization rests on.Remove it,and everything crumbles folks! Oh what a tangled web we weave,when we practice to deceive!!!!!!!!!As far as all of the rest of their lies and false prophecies are concerned,time and pages on here wouldn't be enough,,, hehe lol!
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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I'mmmmmmmmmm backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!How you all doing?.........Their is major discontent among the JWS becasue of this rediculous new light about the expanded 1914 generation,,,,,,!I know many people,now leaving this cult,because they just can't take it anymore.They/JWS are all burned out with the preaching work too,and CONSTANTLY runing to endless meetings,listening to the same old drum beat.God help them.And now this,,,,,,,,,confusing expanded 1914 generation??????????......The GB knows they are loosing members big time,because at this late date,,,,,,,,,they have told so many lies,that their are none left to tell,,,,,,,,hehehe!!!!!!!!!............Oh what a tangled web we weave,when we practice to deceive..................!Now what big boys????????Waite until they have to drop 1914,,,,,,,,,,their goes everyone ok!Just think about it,,,,in 3 and 1/2 years from now,,,,,,,it will be 2014,,,,,the 100th year centenial dates birthday 1914 celibration,hum?????????,,,,,,that is when it will smack most of them in the face,as they think,,,,,,,,,,,,,waite a minute,,,,,,it's been 100 years since the ..........."Creators Promise/Jehovahs Prophetic Words ,,,,,,,,,,have failed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........Glad i've been gone for over 20 years now.As the old fools die off,from the bottom to the top,their will be massive doubts pulling them all out of the hall.Thank you Lord!Amen!
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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower
by Ultimate Reality infrom jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .
article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.
13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.
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witchtowerwitch
Hi volks,i love this site,ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!Sorry to see all of you good people suffering under watchtower deceptions from the past and present!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................QUESTION IS THIS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............How can anyone,with a brain in their head,listen to all of their shit?????????????????????????????.................1914??????????............First,John Aquilla Brown in the early 1800s made up that rediculous 7 times = 2520 years since 607 BCE.............!He was an idiot!Russel did not dream this BS up,but he and the WBTS did.Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!..........Well,second,the temple was destroyed in 587 BCE,20 years later,not 607 BCE ok?Third,Jesus said in the Gospels,Jersusalem WILL BE surrounded by incamped armies,then the gentile times will start!!!!!!!!!!!!.......WILL BE denotes the future volks..................not 607 ok?So the WBTS..........is only 600 years off................witch would mean that Armaggeddon will come in about 2634,,,,,,,,,,but if you use the day for a year rule......LMAO..............600 times 360 days = 21,600 years in the future..............!So add the 2 together,witch is not correct,but i'm just making all of you laugh like me.........hehe!............the end will come in 21,8520 ok?..........Remember Jesus said NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR!...........but the clowns in brooklyn do right ?Anyway Mary,your cute,and can i buy you lunch sometime blondie?1914 s expanded generation?????????????????.....what??????????????...........you have got to be kidding me?I am so sick of all of this nonsense...................!With a 100% prophecy failer rate.............where are they going with all of this stuff???????????????....Will the real APOSTATE please stand up?Because volks...........all of us ex jws are not ok?Remember 1 Peter 4:17.............judgement begins with the house of God,if you can call that place Gods house?I think not.
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New York State USA meet up for ex-jws for partying,anyone interested?
by witchtowerwitch inlets have some fun,before the big one gets us all ok?.
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witchtowerwitch
Nice to here from you guys,lets keep working at finding more people to join in the fun of it all ok?Rome,Utica area,yes i've been thru there a few times ok?Mabey we could meet at a steak house for a good meal,for our first meeting,and plan a bigger and better party as we move towards spring.What do you think about this?
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college education=spiritual weakness?
by twvsnt inhi i'm twvsnt and i've been a witness for 3 years now.
im glad this site exists.
i've been meaning to speak to fellow witnesses who are more open-minded.
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witchtowerwitch
Sorry,i did not read anyones post,but the only reason the wbts doesn't want jws to attend college,is becuase they will become smart,and see through all of the churches lies.Knowledge is power,something that only the rulers think that they should have.
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Did You Ever Secretly "Sin" & The Elders Never Knew About It?
by minimus inwe, as elders, would every so often give a little talk about keeping the congregation clean and that if anyone felt the need to talk to us, to get whatever is bothering them off their chest, we would be readily available to them.
you'd be shocked to see how many would tell us some naughty things they were feeling guilty about.. i'm sure there were plenty of smart people who simply kept quiet and didn't say a word.. here's your opportunity to tell us what you wouldn't tell them..
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Does anyone wonder about the great secret sins that all of the elders do and have????????????????????including all at HQ????????????........Many are their sins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so who are they to pry into our lives,when their own is all screwed up really bad...........All of the elders have so many sheletons in there closets,that if you opened the door................you would see satan and all of the demons holding their hands.............!Homos at HQ...............pedos in the hall,and elders bashing there bananas in there closets,hehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........oh yeahhhhhh!
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Did You Ever Secretly "Sin" & The Elders Never Knew About It?
by minimus inwe, as elders, would every so often give a little talk about keeping the congregation clean and that if anyone felt the need to talk to us, to get whatever is bothering them off their chest, we would be readily available to them.
you'd be shocked to see how many would tell us some naughty things they were feeling guilty about.. i'm sure there were plenty of smart people who simply kept quiet and didn't say a word.. here's your opportunity to tell us what you wouldn't tell them..
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blondie.........................will you marry me?????????????????????????.............Please girl?I want to love you.
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About posting your picture be careful!
by spectromize insimon i'm sorry i don't mean to rain on your parade but you have to remember the society and your local elders watch for stuff like that.
this is a very liberal board as far as discussions go and forever thankful for that, but you have to be careful because you could face a jd meeting.
i'm sure everyone is well aware that some posts on this board just wouldn't go over to well with the society.
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witchtowerwitch
I don't give a shit about what the wbts sees on here,or any of the elders for that matter,and in case everyones forgotten..............we all have freedom of speech,and freedom of the press, in this country!!!!!!!!!!
Remember the constitution,and our bill of rights?????????????????
Why can a church slam and condem everyones religion if they are not jws,and why can the wbts print articles that say that everyone not a jw is of satans world doomed for destruction????????????????????And speak out against all earthly governments,when there main HQs is sitting in a free country.If they don't like it here,why doesn't the GB move there litttle shop of horrors right into the middle of the guarden of eden???????Instead,they let all of our armed forces and first responders,ie............police and firemen and such protect there little asses over here,while our young boys and girls get there asses shot off in battle fighting those who would take the worlds freedoms away???????????????????????????????????????And i always laugh large about how non violent the jws are,by not bearing arms for there country.Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????...If thats the case,then why do many jws hunt anamils with guns,becuase the law of the land says they can????????????They remind me of numerous Nimrods,as a bunch of mighty hunters in opposistion to Jehovah.............If the jws are in ther spiritual paradise in ther kindom halls,now preparing to enter Gods new world order,does shooting at innocent animals with firearms sit well with their preaching????????????Let me see...........the bible says God takes care of the lillies of the field,and when a sparrow falls God is near,Jesus said you are worth more then them............still does it sit well with God..............to see his loving peacefull christians..........with a bible in one hand,and a gun in the other??????????Hummmmmmmmmmmmm???????????Did the little sparrow fall or was it shot down by a hungry christian????????????????........Lastly.........does anyone think that Jehovah God and Jesus will allow weapons that kill people and animals,to exist in the 1000 year reign of Christ??????????Have they forgotten Isaiahs words in chapter 11........that the lion will eat straw just like the bull,and young child will put his hand on a poisonous snake,and be the leader over them all????????????And Isaiah 2:2-4 about beat their swords into plowshares,and their spears into pruning shears,and look they will not do harm,or cause riun in all of my holy mountain,because Jehovah will fill the earth,as the waters are covering the sea!If we live for Jehovah from the day we baptize our souls to him for all eternity,why then do some still think that it's ok to turn around and look back at sodom and gomorrah.Do they not know that they too,might be turned into a pillar of salt like lots wife?????????????