Hello, dgp! It's delightful to read your answer. Thank you. And do you know what? While I'm right in the middle of my deep ponderings, my husband (never a witness -only a witness to my life-long hard core stand) turns round in bed and asks me: "What are you thinking about?" "Oh, I was praying". "And what were you saying?" I doubt for few seconds and then spurt out: "I'm telling God not to worry if He can't help us any more because He's weak now because of old age, I love him just the same". He pauses and turning back to his side just says with concern in his voice: "Oh, come on, honey, don't think such weird things. Come on, go to sleep now". I laugh inside, my husband has been watching my reactions from a distance withough saying much since I quit meetings last June, he is so AMAZED he just can't get over it and I don't seem to stop surprising him these last few months with my novel ideas. Poor soul, in that respect he has little to offer. But you guys fill the void to perfection.
goldensky
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Is God losing his power?
by goldensky indear all,.
around three weeks ago, one of you (i think it was bohm) posted a link with a superbly written thesis attempting to prove yahweh as depicted in the old testament doesn't exist.
i'm nearly through with it (it's thick and parts of it are beyond my understanding, but it's fascinating).
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Is God losing his power?
by goldensky indear all,.
around three weeks ago, one of you (i think it was bohm) posted a link with a superbly written thesis attempting to prove yahweh as depicted in the old testament doesn't exist.
i'm nearly through with it (it's thick and parts of it are beyond my understanding, but it's fascinating).
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goldensky
Dear all,
Around three weeks ago, one of you (I think it was bohm) posted a link with a superbly written thesis attempting to prove Yahweh as depicted in the Old Testament doesn't exist. I'm nearly through with it (it's thick and parts of it are beyond my understanding, but it's fascinating). One of the arguments in particular stayed in my mind for a couple of days (I think it was the argument of polymorphic projection) and then something weird happened: in my prayer that night (yes, I'm still clinging to this habit; my love for Jehovah is still very real although I accept he may not exist) it occurred to me maybe the argument wasn't so far-fetched after all, maybe the God who lovingly created us has actually grown old and lost most of His power and He will die some day. And then I thought: "What if it is true? It's another possibility, isn't it? It would at least help to answer why He is not stepping in any more. Maybe all He can do now is listen to us in agony, wishing with all His heart He could help us out of our suffering but powerless to do so (imagine for example the pain of a parent whose child begs him to cure his/her cancer), putting up with our insults at His silence and passivity, totally heartbroken while He observes our plight, maybe even feeling responsible for it since He created us...". And I suddenly felt an overwhelming feeling of love and pity for him... PITY?!?! HOW WEIRD IT FELT! And then I said: "Jehovah, or whatever your name is, if you are there, if you are listening, I want you to know I love you as much as I always have, even if you can't help us any more, and I'm sorry if we are burdening you with our worries. I'm on your side, I love you for having created me. Don't feel bad please. I'm with you..." And I went on along those lines.
For the first time in my life, I felt sorry for God. This was a new feeling to me. It felt like a blasphemy a little. It may just be a subconscious strategy to cling to my belief in God while conveniently excusing His lack of evidence in our world nowadays. I don't know...
Those of you guys who are old enough to have gone through this: Do you remember the moment in your life when for the first time you looked at your father and mother as an adult and you understood the roles had changed, and how from that point on YOU would have to protect him or her instead of the other way round? It's sort of a painful realization, isn 't it? It happened to me with both my father and mother (at different points in life) and now I recognize this same familiar feeling in regard to my Heavenly Father. It's weird...
I'd love to know if any of you have ever had similar feelings...
By the way, I love you guys. A lot. I mean it.
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Anyone here who left JWs, and then their spouse left later as well?
by JimmyPage inwould love to hear how.
i'm sure many others here would also..
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wish this would come
by mouthy ini want this sang at my funeral.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2alsat3h0w.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2alsat3h0w.
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Anyone here who left JWs, and then their spouse left later as well?
by JimmyPage inwould love to hear how.
i'm sure many others here would also..
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To AK - Jeff Re: Randy Pausch Post . .
by Locutus of Borg injeff, i tried to post a reply in the original thread but for some reason i could not .
looks like some board politics got in the way .
i actually viewed the entire video/lecture and all i can say is thanks for posting.
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If God Truly Cared About People Wouldn't He DO SOMETHING By Now?
by minimus ini know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
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How Did You Discover JWD/JWN ?
by minimus ini always read h2o, randy's site and anything that might stay current.
i think it was h2o that said they were closing there but another site was opening and it was this one.. i'm curious how you got to find this place..
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The Story of SD-7 - Chapter 2
by sd-7 ingiven that i'm very sensitive emotionally, i tend to avoid mentioning my personal life here if possible, preferring to stick to evaluation of watchtower publications and doctrine, particularly the newest material i can get my hands on.
but i felt it was time to talk again.
i hope at least some of you will be gentle.. i'm married now.
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goldensky
Dear sd-7,
You sound like such a wonderful person! You remind me of somebody else on this forum whose love for a sister is incredibly strong and pure. And you express yourself so intelligently! That's why words such as: "I'm just trying to run the clock out and get this life over with. I can't ask for anything beyond that", make me so sad. You have your lady living by your side, you go to bed and wake up every day next to her, the woman of your dreams, sd-7, so enjoy your life to the full with her! Not many people have that opportunity, you know?, so what do you mind the world? Just be happy. I respect what other posters have told you so far, but in my opinion you are not hurting anybody, so don't get lost in speculation. Just live happily, you have achieved what many have not.
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"Autobiography of a Died-Again Christian"
by leavingwt ini enjoyed a number of the points in this essay.
dr. jaco gericke's deconversion story: "autobiography of a 'died-again' christian<snippets>.
it was a little late in the day, however, when i realised that studying theology can be a downright dangerous business for any believer.
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Thank you, Bohm! Now we have the whole thesis thanks to you. I'm having my husband download it for me tomorrow. He'll go crazy when he realizes all the sheets of paper it's going to take! Ha, ha! From the few glimpses I've had so far, it looks pretty promising...
Thanks for this thread, Leavingwt!