i've read alot of posts here regarding jw's and freemasonry, and so far i've seen the usual conjecture by non-masons, and a few well written opinions of the inquiring minds among us.. i'm a former jw from texas, and a current freemason in houston.
my question is:.
what specifically does the wts say as far as masonic membership.
QUOTE: Hey Freydo, so Russell isn't buried directly under the pyramid, but adjacent to it. It wasn't a "pure lie" as you put it, it was a mistake. I've never been to the gravesite. But I still have to ask you, so what? What's the difference?
Prodical, you don't know what you're talking about - just speading lies, rumors and misinformation.
i've read alot of posts here regarding jw's and freemasonry, and so far i've seen the usual conjecture by non-masons, and a few well written opinions of the inquiring minds among us.. i'm a former jw from texas, and a current freemason in houston.
my question is:.
what specifically does the wts say as far as masonic membership.
Can A Christian be a Mason?
Lyle Larrigan
FREEMASONRY IN A NUTSHELL
"A Christian frequently must render a decision about supporting or joining various organizations that exist in the community. In some cases it may be a service club, a charitable organization or a secret society such as one of the lodges. In all cases, the Christian should carefully examine the articles or constitutional principles that the organization is based upon.
In the case of the lodges, that is somewhat difficult to do, especially as lodge members are under oath not to divulge the nature of the foundational principles or the ceremonies that are carried out in the temples. However most comprehensive public libraries have copies of some official lodge publications and books written by Masons, ex-Masons, and non-Masons available for anyone who wishes to find out details of lodge rituals and beliefs.
While some Masons deny that Freemasonry is a religion, there are some like Coil, the author of "Coil's Masonic Encyclopedia" who would agree that it is a religion. When one considers that the lodge meeting places are called "temples", prayer is directed to a supreme deity called "The Great (or Grand) Architect of the Universe" at the opening and closing of all meetings and the Bible is considered a "piece" of lodge furniture and is referred to in some of the rituals, it becomes quite apparent that Freemasonry can be and is considered a religion by most people who have done research into its workings.
In his 1984 book titled "The Brotherhood", Stephen Knight, a journalist and author attempted to take as objective a point-of-view as he could in deciding whether or not Masonry was guilty of devil worship as many had charged, and whether or not it was compatible with Christianity. He decided that the matter did not require a great deal of knowledge of theology. On page 231 of his book we find:
"One does not have to be a theologian - nor even a Freemason or a Christian - to recognize that Christians and Freemasons would have to worship the same God for the two to be compatible. The question simply, then, is do they?
If Freemasonry were found, despite its protestations to the contrary, to be a quasi-religion and to have a different god from the Christian God, then the two would naturally be incompatible."
On pages 235 and 236, Knight goes on to reveal the
"ineffable" name of the G.A.O.T.U. which is deliberately hidden from the candidates and lower degree Masons.
"In fact the Masonic god - cloaked under the description Great Architect - has a specific name and a particular nature, which has nothing to do with Christ, Vishnu, Buddha, Mohammed or any other being recognized by the great faiths of the modern world."
"Two-thirds of Freemasons never realize the untruth of the line they are fed as to the identity of the Great Architect, because it is deliberately kept hidden from them. It is no overstatement to say that most Freemasons, even those without strong religious convictions would never have joined the Brotherhood if they had not been the victims of this subtle trick".
"The true name, although not the nature of the Masonic god, is revealed only to those Third Degree Masons who elect to be "exalted" to the Holy Royal Arch.""In the ritual of exaltation, the name of the Great Architect of the Universe is revealed as JAH-BUL-ON - not a general umbrella term open to any interpretation an individual Freemason might choose but a precise designation that describes a specific supernatural being - a compound deity composed of three separate personalities fused into one. Each syllable of the "ineffable name" represents one personality of this trinity:
JAH = Jahweh, the God of the Hebrew.
BUL = Baal, the ancient Canaanite fertility god associated with "licentious rites of imitative magic".
"ON = Osiris, the ancient Egyptian god of the underworld
Coil records this in his Encyclopedia on page 516 as....................."
http://www.macgregorministries.org/cult_groups/freemason.html
i've read alot of posts here regarding jw's and freemasonry, and so far i've seen the usual conjecture by non-masons, and a few well written opinions of the inquiring minds among us.. i'm a former jw from texas, and a current freemason in houston.
my question is:.
what specifically does the wts say as far as masonic membership.
Russell isn't buried under a pyramid! That is a pure lie. The pyramid is near where he's buried.
And if you're interested in what's behind the pedophile cover-up in jw land consider this:
Oct 31st - btw is also the day Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the Church door
i've read alot of posts here regarding jw's and freemasonry, and so far i've seen the usual conjecture by non-masons, and a few well written opinions of the inquiring minds among us.. i'm a former jw from texas, and a current freemason in houston.
my question is:.
what specifically does the wts say as far as masonic membership.
SITS VOL 6 P580-1 "This brings before us the whole question of orders, societies, etc., and what privileges the New Creation has in connection with such organizations. Is it right for them to be members of these societies? We answer that while Church associations are purely religious, and labor and beneficial organizations in general are purely secular, there are still other orders which combine the religious and the secular features. As we understand the matter, for instance, the Free Masons, Odd Fellows, Knights of Pythias, etc., perform certain rites and ceremonies of a religious kind. Let it be understood that we are not waging any warfare upon those who hold membership in these various orders, even as we are not waging warfare against the various sectarian religious systems. We place upon one level all of those which have any religious ceremonies, teachings, etc., and consider them all as parts of Babylon, some quarters or wards of which are cleaner, and others less clean, but all, nevertheless, full of confusion, error--contrary to the divine intention, as displayed in the organization of the primitive Church and the instructions, by word and example, given to it by the inspired Founder, and his twelve apostles. We admonish the New Creation to have nothing whatever to do with any of these semi-religious societies, clubs, orders, churches; but to "Come out from amongst them, and be ye separate, and touch not the unclean thing." (2 Cor. 6:17) Their things, their worship, their teachings, their doctrines, are unclean to us,"
any of the rhetoric, demands, conciliation, etc., etc., remind you of anything?
wasn't this all how this war started in iraq?
(or the justification for it, anyway?
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"twas the night before ramadan" .
by mullah mohammed omar.
twas the night before ramadan, and all through the cave.
| Self-proclaimed 'niqabitches" protest France's ban on veils. (Ironically, these sweet young things might not have heads to cover if they tried this in certain parts of the Muslim world). | ||||||
Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace "He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause" Muhammad, prophet of Islam
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to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you have peace!.
as you know i have, for many years now, related to you that i hear the voice of the fine shepherd, the holy one of israel and holy spirit, jaheshua mischajah.
over such years i have received many questions and comments, and engaged in various debates regarding the validity of that name.
http://christthecreativeword.org/Messages/the_name_that_is_above_every_nam.htm
"Is our Savior a woman? Is he a Canaanite? Does he need to holler (halloo) for help? It is evident that shua does not mean savior in Hebrew. Shua and shuah are both Canaanite words and do not come from the Hebrew language. In order to find the true name of our Savior we should look up these three Hebrew words: save, savior, and salvation........."
i thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.
maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.
if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.
In the more than 10 years of sitting through jw meetings I don't know if I ever heard Heb 10:26-29 quoted - and although I no longer am in posession of the wtcd-rom - i do know that there are precious few references to it. What is quoted below is from a UCGI pamphlet that may be obtained in full at the address given.
"Paul and the Law" Copyright@ 2002 Church of God International - Tyler Texas PO Box 2525 75710 - for complete free copy
"The apostle describes the law as a "custodian" from which the Chirstian has been set free; yet at the same time, he views the law as holy and just and good." He affirms that only 'the doers of the law will be justified," yet declares that all who are in Christ have "died to the law.".........Little wonder Paul's epistle evokes so much controversy.....The solution lies in understanding that the law plays more than one role.
The apostle strongly denounces the idea that Christians, thru faith "over throw the law,' declaring instead that we "uphold the law." Rom 3:31..The law then is God's ethical and moral standard. It teaches us how to live.....This is the Educative role of the Law....However, the law has another function--The Judicial Role.
In it's second function, the law acts as a "custodian"-- but only for those not in Christ. it is this role of the law that Paul had in mind when he says, "You are not under law, but under grace. Rom 6:14 when he describes the law that kept us under it's power "until Christ came."
Under condemnation, the law informs us of our need for a savior--one who can block out of record of sin.....When we come to conversion, through faith in Christ, the law's role as custodian is abolished. No longer can the law demand our death...The curse has been removed. Gal 3:31
We should now be able to understand how Paul can insist upon meeting the requirement of the law while without contradiction, speaking of the law's transitory role....by calling upon the Galatians to listen to the law - the educative role - while upholding his warnings against engaging in the works of the flesh - all of which are condemned. Gal 5 .........So oviously he also recognizes the perpetual teaching nature and the judicial role of the law.
The law was added in the sense that it was given in "codified form" at Sinai. Of course this does not mean that the principles set forth in the law were previously unknown.......It is extremely important to understand that the law's abolition as custodian thru faith in Christ does not mean the abolition of the law......Paul did not say that the law died; he said we died to the law.
Serving in the "new life of the spirit", means striving no longer to break God's law. The judicial role of the law called for our death, which was fulfilled.....the educative role calls for our obedience. "I delight in the law." Rom 7:22 In Christ we are no longer under the law's power to identify and punish us as sinners....having been set free from the curse...but not the law."
WARNING - Seeking justification by the law (rather than thru faith in Christ) is not the only way to revive the law's judicial role of identifying and punishing transgressions. Returning to a life of sin--the works of the flesh--will accomplish the same.
God did give the Israelites commands concerning sacrifices--even before leaving Egypt. What he means here is that he never commanded sacrifices without moral responsibility. He is not pleased with mere sacrifices. He is not like the pagan gods."
let me make this very clear from the get go , i am neither for or against the use of marijuana .
but it has just occurred to me that many of my life long friends have either had periods in there life where they have or continue to smoke it .
what if anything has your experience with pot taught you either about yourself or someone you know , was it a positive or negative infuence .
Luke 6:26
"Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets."
let me make this very clear from the get go , i am neither for or against the use of marijuana .
but it has just occurred to me that many of my life long friends have either had periods in there life where they have or continue to smoke it .
what if anything has your experience with pot taught you either about yourself or someone you know , was it a positive or negative infuence .
When we use things for which they were not intended - there are consequences. Anybody familiar with the following?
New Film: The Fire Baptism and the Lost Sacraments
The Holy Oil of God Illegal? The Fire Baptism Illegal?
This shocking film traces the history of the Fire Baptism of Jesus Christ and the Holy Oil, through the earliest Christian Fathers, Gnostic Christians, and early Roman Catholic Church Councils.
This Film Documentary brings together the worlds foremost researchers on Cannabis in the Holy Anointing Oil as described in Exodus 30:23. The Holy Oil includes an ingredient translated as calamus. This translation is incorrect. Calamus contains a poison called asarone. The term Calamus was mistranslated in the earliest Greek Bible the Septuagint. The Hebrew in this case is Kaneh Bosem or cannabis.
The Fire Baptism of Jesus Christ is illegal to obtain today. The Holy Anointing Oil of God is illegal to manufacture Worldwide. The very anointing whereby we were called Christians, according to the earliest Christian fathers, is denied. Not one Christian Church on the planet uses Gods Holy Anointing Oil, as described in Exodus 30:23, making every Christian on the planet a false anointed or not anointed at all. Is the Anti-Christ upon us? This 1700 year old deception is exposed.
The Chrism or (anointing) is superior to baptism, for it is from the word Chrism that we are called Christians. Gospel of Phillip.
"Are you unwilling to be anointed with the Oil of God? Wherefore we are called Christians on this account, because we are anointed with the oil of God." Theophilus of Antioch (181AD)
Saint Tertullian of Carthage (160 - 225 AD) writes that after water baptism, " We are thoroughly anointed with a blessed unction, (a practice derived), from the old discipline, wherein on entering the priesthood, then were wont to be anointed with oil from a horn, ever since Aaron was anointed by Moses. Whence Aaron is called "Christ." Tertullian of Carthage "On Baptism."
Producer/Director:
Terry Winger
Cast:
Chris Bennett, Professor Carl Ruck, Chris Conrad, Mikki Norris, Reverend Mark Stevens, Reverend Baldasaro, Reverend Tucker, and others.
Full information is available at www.freeanointing.org. Please feel free to quote or link to my research. My research is online.
