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  Adam could have put Jehovah In Paradox!

  by JohnTron72 in

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  i'm going to be the first and throw this out there for others but, from careful study of the scriptures i've found a loophole that even adam who was perfect at the time missed!

  i'm sure everyone has heard the conundrum about ,"can god create a rock he can't lift?

  " and if he can't create one he can't lift, then god cannot do everything" well that doesn't really matter since we know jehovah says himself he cannot lie right?

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  Diogenesister

  Adam would have had to go without sex for 900 years😂😂😂

  If he was willing to fore go that, then yes, he would have bested God and proven him a liar

  The most rudimentary analysis shows this story is allegory, as you've shown
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  Jesus said Truly I tell you This Day...

  by JohnTron72 in

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  2. bible

  adam was told not to eat from the tree of knowledge for upon the very day of eating from it, he would die.

  i had someone say that god lied because, adam didn't die that day but, the scriptures say to god a day is as a thousand years so, since adam lived 900+ years after eating , he indeed died within god's view of a day.

  methuselah the oldest to ever live 969 years still within god's set time of a day.

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  Yup. That was the day he said it. It seems too obvious

  Look at all of Jesus sayings. He constantly said to people "Truly I say to you..." this and "Truly I say to you...." that. He at no time EVER said in any other part of the new testament "truly I say to you today" did he?

  Only in when speaking to the so-called criminal on the stake did he use this expression and add the "today" bit.

  That to me shows he was saying to the criminal he would be in Paradise today.
  
  
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  Double Standards of the Watchtower

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?

  here a a few i am aware of:.

  1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).

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  Diogenesister

  Found another one on Winston's channel.

  They claim no one knows if a person claiming to be is indeed truly anointed and only Jehovah knows whether they will receive their heavenly reward.

  Then state that governing body members who die, such as the late Mr. Barr*, have now received their heavenly reward.

  
  

  * I'm not claiming this gentleman in particular has not, etc
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  Which songs give you goosebumps?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. entertainment

  i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?

  ', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.

  y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.

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  Diogenesister

  Cofty Kind of Blue is probably my all time favourite album if I had to pick.

  LUHE i love love love Kate Bush. That one is special.

  Fed up exjw Is that on bagpipes? I bloody love them, and I love Amazing Grace...so double winner!

  JinVAI also loved Bauhaus as a youngster.

  Uncle punky why so down? My husband is a muzo and he says it sometimes takes the pleasure away from critical listening. Or any listening I suppose.

  I can’t post on this but I’ll have a think. Probably going to be MC5
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  147th Gilead prt. 3 - this could stumble people

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  during gerrit loesch's talk just released, he goes on a long list of the false end times predictions throughout the millennia.

  i didn't expect it, but then he goes into the precursors to the bible students who, when their dates failed, changed christ's presence to have happened 'invisibly'.

  then it goes right into the jws, and he reads the quote from millions now living will never die about how we can 'confidently expect' the resurrection in 1925, and then the life everlasting book that predicted 1975. of course, he doesn't say how it's still going on, namely with the overlapping generation and its' accompanying convoluted chart, but still, this is more than they've ever said on the subject, especially recently.. it almost sounds like a forced statement, to address any backlash from people reading 'apostate lies' online, because he also says how the gb 'humbly' admitted mistakes, referencing the non-apology after 1975 that disturbed raymond franz.

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  Can anyone link this as I can’t find it
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  Elder dissassociates himself from platform!

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  https://youtu.be/6xotjmusdpy.

  zing.

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  Diogenesister

  He talks about the false date setting for sure, 1925 1975 etc etc and he also mentions, I think, that paradise earth is a Jewish concept not a Christian one. Christians have another hope....
  
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  What the 2019 Service Report is really hiding

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwfeoq2514&feature=youtu.be.

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  Hey Data dog It’s even worse, I’d say, if they’re NOT being honest with the figures. I mean if this is them cooking the books heaven knows how bad it is!!
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  What the 2019 Service Report is really hiding

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwfeoq2514&feature=youtu.be.

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  Diogenesister

  Less than 3000 New JWs in the USA!!!

  No wonder they are pushing child baptisms! People must be leaving in droves in the USA. Without the youngsters they would definitely be in negative growth.

  I mean just from empirical evidence and being very generous with numbers we’ve seen at the very least HALF of all US baptisms are kids under 21. If you took them away I can only imagine how poor the figures would be.
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  Hats Off To Simon

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  huge round of applause for simon (not every hero wears a cape).

  this is to say a huge big thank you,tons of appreciation and gratitude from me for simon for toiling away on his own dime for 20 years or so and keeping this site up and running .

  surely this site has helped tons of jdumbs n exjdumbs in their search for ttatt and freedom.

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  Diogenesister

  I love Simon for his modesty and dedication.

  I actually think he’s pooped out but he keeps going out of loyalty and love for us.

  Though he’d probably never admit it.

  I just wanna say we 👀 You Simon!! And even though we might not say it enough, we do truly appreciate you.
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  The sky is falling- maybe

  by joey jojo in

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  2. current

  i am actually not a 'sky is falling' guy, but i wanted to comment on the australian bushfires.. you may or may not believe the science behind global warming, however i personally put more faith in verified, scientific data than the words of fat cat, self-serving politicians.

  climate science has predicted, based on data, that we will see more prolonged, extreme weather events, higher average temperatures, rising sea levels due to ocean expansion and glacial melting.

  and this is exactly whats happening.

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  Diogenesister

  I have young kids and younger nieces and nephews. I am deeply worried about the sort of world we are handing over to them. If they live as long as my grandparents did, Armageddon will be the least of their worries.

  Thinking of all Australians, including our relatives, at this terrible time.