Well initially it’s hand powered....at least in an emergency setting.
As long as “we have hands” no one that could be saved with a ventilator will be allowed to die. At least that would have been the case in the hands of the staff I worked with.
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Question For People Being Put Onto A Ventilator - How Is It Powered?
by Simon inimagine you or a loved one have to go onto a ventilator and are given the choice of how it should be powered.
what are people picking?.
coal or oil powered energy.
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Legal Concerns About "Zoom" Meetings!
by Atlantis inthis whole "zoom" thing has got me wondering whether some of it is legal or not.
if a person has to dress up for a zoom meeting the way the watchtower dictates, doesn't this really go "beyond" cult?.
even the cults who committed mass suicide were able to dress the way they wanted for their meetings.
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They are a conservative christian sect. They have some high-control practices. But they are not a cult.
Simon are you feeling quite well?
They tick almost every box most experts (and those with lived experience) designate as cult behaviour.
Ive noticed because you find people’s unnecessary and arbitrary criticism of JWs as annoying, In your frustration you tend to jump to the other extreme!!
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About the Memorial and Unleavened Bread Thing..
by snugglebunny inunleavened bread has no yeast in it.
and yeast is a symbol of sin, right?
not good for symbolising whatever it's supposed to symbolise, obviously.. so my beloved missus, who i believe is possibly the best cook in the world (although i do have a soft spot for chef nigella lawson with those magnificent knockers and all) is an absolute ace at baking sourdough bread.. and yes, sourdough bread - especially when toasted - is absolutely yummy.
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sb: is not "leaven" another name for sourdough ? yeast a concentrate of that? how about baking powder?
Yes I’ve made Sour dough and in your ‘starter’ is simply the natural bacteria that is in the atmosphere....lasts for donkeys years if you look after it (“feed” it).
so I think Snuggle bunny that technically it is ‘leavened’ but don’t quote me on it.
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Update....Not That Anyone Cares
by 1234 inthis isn't a poor me thread.....just what is going on here in my small world.. since both my son and me own tour companies, when the lock down happened three weeks ago our businesses literally died over night.
we both depended on the tourist that come to phoenix and sedona, so that all went away as people stop taking vacations.
all future tours have been cancelled.. my son moved in with me two days ago, much to chagrin of his jehovah's witness mother.
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Guys has anyone thought to put together an exjw business site so that folks can choose to support each other’s businesses when this mess is over?
Another idea is Air B n B to keep the mortgage paid guys? Air B n B plus personal tour?
Caves a lot of people would be interested in off grid breaks, too, when this is over. Especially somewhere picturesque in the mountains. It’s worth advertising in the UK too.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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New York city tragically experienced their first Nurse death. Rip Sister.
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Do you know anyone with corona virus?
by eyeslice2 injust asking if any here personally know anyone with or who has had the corona virus?.
what was their experience like?
are they on the mend?.
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Just asking for a friend....🤒😉🤧
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Jehovah's Witnesses Mistaken Ideas About What The Bible Teaches
by Vanderhoven7 inlet's add to the following list.
jws are mistaken when they believe the bible teaches:.
1. that their leaders somehow represent the faithful and wise servant.
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I’d say another major one is the way they dismiss the many thousands of early Christian martyrs as not being genuine followers of Christ, and therefore not of the 144,000 and going to heaven.
They have to dismiss them in order for their theology to work since there is much historical evidence that many more than 144,000 were martyred. Which makes none of the current GB anointed, if the limit on those going to heaven is to be believed.
The arrogance of that, and the fact only they can properly interpret the scriptures, is probably their greatest delusion.
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Happy 20th Birthday to JWD / JWN
by Simon inas sgt pepper sang, "it was 20 years ago today" ... that i made my first post on my first forum.. i obviously didn't put too much thought into what it should say although i must have burned 45 posts testing things and was too lazy to reset the counter before going live (?):.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/46/welcome.
but somehow, it worked and grew and here we all are, 20 years on.
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Congratulations Simon and Angharad (beautiful name btw)!!
This was the first site I came across and one of things that grabbed me was how hilarious some of the posts were!! There’s rarely a day when something doesn’t make me chuckle (especially Stan lol )
Its really absolutely no exaggeration to say this site is a treasure trove on all things Watchtower - the history, Personal experiences, scandals, current policy, old policy and many, many incredible posters. Writers, historians, comedians, musicians...aren’t we a talented bunch!!!
There really is no subject connected with the watchtower that hasn’t been investigated, pored over , philosophized over and sung about that you can’t find on this site! It’s no wonder it pops up second on a google search of Jehovahs witnesses.
Sadly we have lost in death many wonderful people, but their words live on right here on this site and will benefit “overlapping generations” of doubting Jehovah’s witnesses to come.
We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Very much like a Paul Grundy your self-effacing manner as you quietly work in the background, year on year, for the benefit of those in need, ironically, represents the very supportive Christian attitude the watchtower purports to exemplify. But as we all now know, watchtower is the very antithesis of that selfless, modest attitude.
You and Angharad really put them to shame.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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P.S. Simon your mask is on the wrong half of your face🤣🤣😂
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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One theory is that even if a face-mask doesn't stop infection completely, by reducing the dosage you get, the virus could develop more slowly and give your body more time to respond so you get milder symptoms vs being blasted with a heavy dose and it getting overwhelmed. This may be why medical staff are hit so hard with it - too much sudden exposure in a short time-period.
That's for airborne transmission. It also prevents you touching your own face which helps prevent the other major method of transmission.
The messaging we were being told that "face-masks don't help" is a lie. The message was really "they damn well do help but we didn't think to stock up enough so we want you to not have them so we can". I understand that healthcare workers need them and should have them. The problem isn't regular people buying them, it's healthcare management not doing their job.
Simon yes yes yes!!! I’ve been saying all along, very much like HIV, the viral load of the person who infects you and the method of infection(ie for example those who contracted it as I.v. Drug user’s via a “bolus “ dose) affected the prognosis of the person who caught it. Ie the stage of the disease in the infected makes a difference to your chance of survival and I’m certain it’s a similar situation with Covid19.
And yes, masks work! We can’t get them but I’ve been ordering my teen’s to wear cotton”bandanas” over their mouth and nose, then carefully removed and boil washed (if you have a dishwasher that will do the trick)
Now the W.H.O. are similarly advising people to use them.