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  Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

  by carla in

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  can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

  he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

  ) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

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  Wow! The "head boy" has been "sent down" from Beth Hell???!!! !😳
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Donations have tanked since, so what about this job Lloyd said he was offered? Taking them up on it?

  If that job offer existed - and I mean if because you cannot take anything Lloyd says as gospel - it's either from a bar manager of one of the bars he performs at, working as bar staff . Or it's from a wealthy Patreon/donor. Either one is unlikely to work out. He'd last 5 minutes in a bar keep job which requires good time keeping, hard work and most of all an even and polite temper! The second option is equally likely to flop because when someone's own business relies on all Lloyd's good qualities to succeed ....it won't 😉
  
  
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  The Evolution of Judas Iscariot

  by Leolaia in

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  the story of judas iscariot in the gospels provides the reader with a fascinating picture of how the plot and details of the narratives were gleaned from the ot and embellished in different ways.

  the evangelists and the tradents that preceded them looked to the ot (and other affiliated literature) for information on what happened to jesus, employing a haggadaic method of biblical interpretation similar to how rabbis and authors of pseudepigraphs in the second temple era expanded the brief stories of the patriarchs in genesis with reams of new detail and legendary episodes -- through the means of exegesis aimed to penetrate beyond a plain reading of the text to "fill in the blanks" of what must have happened.

  the authors of the gospels also scoured through the ot to discover what was supposed to happen to jesus and wrote their stories accordingly.

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  You are just a nut who likes to use big words

  Leolaia? Definitely not! One of the most, if not the most scholarly person to ever post of this forum PS.
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  Zoom replaced with KHCONF+ app for meetings?

  by joey jojo in

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  just heard about khconf+ app replacing zoom for hybrid meetings at kngdom halls.

  did a quick search here and didnt find any posts about it.

  have i missed something?.

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  So they'll be selling the publishers data?? Or is it for spying? Both? A way to only allow those they deem elderly or infirm enough to access meetings by only allowing branch to give out links ?

  All of the above?
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  The ORG'S "foundation" name............

  by BoogerMan in

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  .........jehovah.. the bible's foundation name - (1 corinthians 3:11) "for no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is jesus christ.".

  the org's chosen name for christians - "jehovah's witnesses.".

  jehovah's chosen name for christians - acts 11:26 - "...the disciples were by divine providence called christians.".

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  Thanks for the Arian response.👍🏻
  

  Sea Breeze There was a sadness to see him go, if only for the comfortable familiarity of the chains I grew up with.

  😉 Who doesn't vibe with that feeling, as the kids say!

  Jesus and I had traded places

  Jesus became my sin (the scapegoat

  Don't you ever feel guilty about that? I don't know it just seems so cruel...😬

  32 And if he cannot [do so], when the other king is still a great way off, he sends an envoy and asks the terms of peace.

  If we secretly try to add anything or anyone one else..... Jesus and your own self, the deal will not be accepted

  🤔 Interesting. Watchtower never uses these scriptures this way. So simply.....
  
  
  
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  Update on Russian ban

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/four-jehovah-s-witnesses-sentenced-to-seven-years-each-in-russia.

  the following is an update in relation to the russian ban on jehovah's witnesses as it appeared on reuters on the 30th january .

  jan 30 (reuters) - a russian court has sentenced four jehovah's witnesses to seven years each in prison after finding them guilty of coordinating extremist activities, according to a spokesman for the religious group.. .

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  Separately, a woman in the nearby city of Tolyatti was given two years' forced labour for the same crime on Jan. 25, the same day as the four men were sentenced, according to the group's Russian website.

  I think it would be more productive, instead of hard labour etc, to mandate some kind of de-programming course.

  Ban cults on the basis of being high control groups that use undue influence, holding extremist views, and send them to therapists that deal with ex hostages etc!!

  Oh....and massively tax the organization, banning them from taking donations from members, or otherwise profiting from them. Watchtower will soon pack it's bags.
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  Quince?

  by peacefulpete in

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  anyone have a quince tree?

  we found one growing by a large brick building and picked some fruit last summer.

  a bit too far north normally but this one survives.

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  Not sure....but my pussy cat told me you definitely eat it with mince and a runcible spoon!😉

  I've had it with cheese. Very nice....ricotta I think?😋
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  The ORG'S "foundation" name............

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .........jehovah.. the bible's foundation name - (1 corinthians 3:11) "for no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is jesus christ.".

  the org's chosen name for christians - "jehovah's witnesses.".

  jehovah's chosen name for christians - acts 11:26 - "...the disciples were by divine providence called christians.".

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  The Law applied to the Hebrews. Jesus nailed the law to the cross & we as gentiles were never under the law (except Noahide) (Gal. 3:23, Rom 10:4, Eph.2:15)

  Christians are under the law of Christ (Gal.6:2). So as other posters have stated, such worshipers of the God of the Bible & following the lead of the apostles are to be called 'Christians' (Acts 11:26).

  I suppose their are many denominations who give their church as a whole a specific name to differentiate it from other churches - In the Bible they used only geographical location e.g. church of Ephesus /Brighton /Austin Tx etc - But naming your church or denomination something else is one thing, calling yourselves as Christian's anything else but "Christian" is not Biblical, IMHO.

  In recent times Watchtower has leant more towards reclaiming the term Christian, e.g. "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" (perhaps because they often get challenged that they are not?). But despite their protests they call each other "one of Jehovah's witnesses" first and foremost and always have.

  NB. I'm still not clear if Arian's are considered fully Christian? Can someone more knowledgeable clear that up for me, please?
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  The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

  by NotFormer in

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  2. scandals

  i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

  yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

  to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

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  On Bottlegate and embarrassing the WTS, I didn't realise how long ago that was. It was at least five years ago; I was under the impression that it was more recent, and therefore some sort of smoking gun regarding Tony's removal/retirement. That he was some sort of conservative holdout and needed to make way for fresh blood makes more sense now, especially with the recent changes.

  That bottle gate thing was blown waaay out of proportion by certain...ahem...regressive activists😉 Talk about speculation, he could have been buying that for any number of reasons. A wedding, (his wedding anniversary party was my guess), a business meeting....witnesses can and do drink, after all.

  I think he wouldn't agree to recent changes and either DA'd in anger and was made to sign a gagging order in return for a home etc Or the GB are more decent than we thought and did so out of pity.

  I do think Not Former's comment stands that he'd be quite friendless since I'm pretty sure he's not attending meetings (or we'd know by now?) or at least pretty isolated... especially if he's the sociable type (which I'm sure he is). Witnesses are very status-driven, after all and may be a bit leary around him now.
  
  
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  Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness

  by Ron.W. in

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  2. beliefs

  a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.

  elder: 'yes.

  i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!

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  NFormer Dyb, dyb, dyb!"

  "Dob Dob Dob!" 😉

  "I'm canvassing for our local MP/representative. Can we count on your vote madam?"

  "I'm collecting for Mercy Ships ,would you care to donate, no? Do take a leaflet then to see some of the real lifesaving work we undertake!"