if anybody can spare an hour or two to work through some article translation (from english) to:.
spanish.
portuguese.
Hi goldensky,
No offence taken. Believe me…I’m well aware of the challenge that this represents J . A work that might be read by thousands of Spanish speakers deserves a decent translation. You see… I speak Caribbean Spanish! Now you can imagine how challenging this is for me! LOL.
I’ll try my best, but if you know who could help please let us know.
P.S I think that Cyberjesus is a fellow Central/South American.
if anybody can spare an hour or two to work through some article translation (from english) to:.
spanish.
portuguese.
Besty,
I’m working on Frank Kavelin’s life story translation into Spanish. Because that is a very popular story in freeminds, I’m paying a lot of attention to details in order to have a translation that naturally expresses the writer’s ideas. Here is a preview of what I’m doing. As with English, the Spanish language also has expressions that mean different things to other Spanish speakers. So, I’m trying to use a standard Spanish words and expressions in the translation.
Cyberjesus could review and provide his opinion.
Cuando Se Desafino La Melodía Del Reino
Me llamo Frank Kavelin. Mi esposa Bárbara y yo fuimos recientemente expulsados por “apostasía”. Mucho antes de hacernos inactivos, mi nombre fue mencionado en un tema de conversación en el foro de JWN. Yo soy el anciano citado en el periódico Americano Los Angeles Times defendiendo un artículo que apareció en una Atalaya del 1987 que trataba sobre el tema de la privacidad del paciente. También soy el hermano que resulto seriamente herido en la tragedia del mercado de agricultores de Santa Monica en el año 2002.
Mis inicios Como Testigo de Jehová
Mis padres se hicieron testigos alrededor del año 1950. Mi padre, Al Kavelin, fue un reconocido director de orquesta en la década de 1930 y 40, pero para el 1950, estaba teniendo dificultades sustentando a su familia. Tengo tres hermanas, así que éramos seis hijos en total. Un día, mientras mi padre hacia diligencias en Hollywood, se encontró con Henry Russell, quien anteriormente había dirigido el departamento de música de la NBC (Canal de televisión Norte Americano), en la Costa Oeste de EEUU. Mi padre le preguntó a Henry el por que ya no trabajaba para la NBC y Henry le respondió que tenía un mejor empleo. Era difícil el imaginar cual podría ser mejor trabajo que el que Enrique tenia en la NBC, la curiosidad de mi padre lo llevo a hacer mas preguntas. Henry le respondió diciendo: "Estoy trabajando para Jehová." Aunque mi padre ya percibía hacia donde se dirigía la conversación, preguntó: "¿Quién es Jehová?" Henry sabía que mi padre era hijo de un rabino Judio, y lo regaño por hacer tal clase de pregunta. Para ese momento, ya mi padre quería ponerle fin a la conversación y le dijo a Henry: "Hablaremos de este tema después en otra ocasión." Henry respondió diciendo: "Bueno, ¿cuándo?" Sin más, mi padre lo invitó a cenar el próximo miércoles por la noche. Henry llegó alrededor de las 6:00pm, y después de un debate maratónico, partió de la casa aproximadamente a las 6:00 de la mañana del día siguiente. Las sesiones de debates nocturnas continuaron por casi más de dos años. Basándose en estas discusiones y en la investigación independiente, mi padre se convenció de que lo que Henry compartía con el era la verdad.
the jehovah's witness are notorious for ranting about their favourite religion to pick on and that is the catholic church.
my question is, if they are false.
prophets, etc... then what they said about the catholic church should be suspect also.
All organized religions are in it for the money to a certain degree. Same crap different smell. But even then, some are better than the WT in the sense that they don’t hide their financial affairs from their members; or at least they don’t claim to be an infallible organization.
Today I watched a PBS documentary on Martin Luther and the reformation movement. It was interesting to see that one of the things that disturbed him was that the catholic was more like a corporation than a church “Martin Luther was especially troubled because some church officials gave people the impression that they could buy their way into heaven.”(http://weuropeanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/martin_luther_and_the_reformation).
As I was watching the video, I couldn’t help but to noticed a lot of similarities between the Catholic Church and the Watchtower Society. For example, Martin Luther made a pilgrimage trip to the Church in Rome, hoping that he would achieve a deeper sense of spirituality and closeness to God. He was soon disappointed, when he realized that the church was nothing more than a corporation, and that the officials where not men of God but a bunch of cold businessmen. I thought of the many bethalites that faced the same reality when they worked at the head quarters.
You can find the video on this link: http://video.pbs.org/video/1379546586/
i respect those who come here from abroad (legally) but i can't help being amused at some of the things that are uttered from their mouths.
i live in a area where a good portion of my neighbors are of mexican american descent.
yesterday a neighbor 2 doors down was yelling at her son to quit teasing their german shepherd.
How about this, some Latin men call their wives or their mothers “boss”. In Spanish, female boss is JEFA…so imagine this situation…here is Martin and Julio, both Latinos born in the USA and John a blue blooded white American…
Martin : So Julio, are you coming to see the ball game this Saturday?
Julio : I’m not sure bro; I have tons of things to do this weekend.
John : C’com Julio all the guys are going to be there.
Martin : and after the game we are going for some frias bestida de novia (cold beer).
Julio : Coño Martin, is that my wife keeps nagging me about fixing that leak in the kitchen…y tu sabes (you know) I want no problems with la JEFA.
John …Julio that’s not nice, you shouldn’t refer to your wife in such terms.
Julio: What do you mean John?
John : you just called your wife a fat ugly cow.
Julio: I don’t understand John…what do you mean…when? how?
John: You just called her a Heffa….
Martin: Oh…no John…you got it wrong my friend…Julio said JEFA, JEFA in Spanish means female boss.
John: My bad Julio.
Julio: No problemo gringo.
John: Akudamata’ta Julio.
Julio and Martin : what that heck did he said?
hey!.
the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.
this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..
agonus...
Yes...the Dominicans share the island with Haiti. One island, two contries.
hey!.
the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.
this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..
The Bolivians says they were the first one there...
Just 10 minutes after the earthquake that devastated Port au Prince, the Company "Bolivia V" was already performing rescue work. He managed to lift 30 people alive from the UN building and their work are continuing. When the earth stopped shaking, on 12 January in Port au Prince, there was only chaos. "When we left the building where we were, the streets were clogged. We saw around us a lot of people killed or injured. There was so much smoke, screams, and start helping people, "says Lt. Col. from Haiti Henry Laredo, commander of the Mechanized Infantry Company" Bolivia V ", designed in the Caribbean country.They had spent more than 10 minutes after the quake when Bolivian troops Peacekeepers began the work of rescue. "We saw images that will be very difficult to forget," added the lieutenant.
http://www.la-razon.com/versiones/20100124_006982/nota_250_942795.htm
You get my point....
hey!.
the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.
this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..
The Cubans say they were the first ones there....
AMN .- In the first critical days after the earthquake that struck Haiti only two American news agencies reported rapid Cuban response to the crisis. One was Fox News, which claimed, wrongly, that the Cubans were absent from the list of neighboring Caribbean countries that had assisted. The other way was the Christian Science Monitor (a respected news agency that recently shut down its print edition), which correctly reported that Cuba had sent 30 doctors to Haiti.The Christian Science Monitor, in a second article quoted Laurence Korb, a former deputy defense secretary and current member of the Center for American Progress, who declared that the U.S., leading the relief efforts in Haiti, they "think use the knowledge of neighboring Cuba, "which, he said," has some of the best doctors in the world - we should try and airlifted to Haiti ".
http://www.agenciamn.com/Sociedad/Haiti-Los-primeros-en-ayudar.html
hey!.
the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.
this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..
The Dominican Republic says they were the first there....
Rafael Nunez, a spokeswoman for Fernandez, told BBC News that his country was the first to get international assistance when no one was delivering nothing in Haiti. "We set up an emergency operations center in Jimani, on the border, and we are carrying food, mattresses, blankets, water among others.""They were prepared to deliver a million rations of food, so it's a pretty impressive operation," he told BBC News Jasmine Huggins, of the British relief organization Christian Aid.This mobilization of support occurs despite the difficult relations that have traditionally existed between the Dominican Republic and Haiti. One of the sticking points between the two countries is the presence of hundreds of thousands of illegal Haitians in Dominican.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/america_latina/2010/01/100114_haiti_dominicana_mes.shtml
hey!.
the following story is apparently circulating in several south-american bethel-branches: after the earthquake in haiti, the wts was the first provide help in the form of 18 doctors who was transported in by air.
this clearly show how well the organization work bla bla bla.. im curious if anyone else here has heard this story, or have information about how effective the wts helping work really was..
The catholics say they were the first one there also.
Ok...excuse the bad translation..I did it using google, had no time to review.
The first to arrive: "Caritas is deploying a relief operation in Haiti after the earthquake"The Church was already present in the affected country through organizations such as Caritas, Manos Unidas or AIN, the Pope calls for international response "urgent"Haiti has suffered the worst earthquake in its last two hundred years. It speaks of a hundred thousand deaths. The first to arrive were the associations Church for one simple reason: they were already there helping. Caritas, Aid to the Church in Need (ACN) and Manos Unidas are offering first aid to the hundreds of thousands affected by the earthquake measuring 7.3 degrees on the Richter scale that has plagued Haiti.The campaign coordinator for Spanish Caritas Haiti, Martin Lake, has been confirmed to have already ForumLibertas.com internet communication with the branch of Caritas in the Caribbean country. Thanks to that first report explained that since the first time the organization has been able to deploy the first aid because their facilities have remained standing. Hati Catholic Relief Services (Caritas is known as American) is now shipping the first aid he had stored in their offices in Haiti......
here is the link to the spanish news..
http://www.forumlibertas.com/frontend/forumlibertas/noticia.php?id_noticia=15971
does god need an organization on earth today?.
the word of the lord from jerusalem.
because he is jehovah's organization on earth today, right now!
rmnnoute - I conclude by your comment that you are a WT apologist/loyalist. If that is the case…you should not be here in the first place. You should be obeying the commands from your master’s in Brooklyn NY.
But if you decide to read….
Anyone who takes the lead in a Christian congregation has to be faithful to the teachings of the Christ and the Apostles. Any apparent authority is limited to the service that they provide to the cong. Look at this comment from Wesley’s note on Hebr 13:17
Wesley’s Note: Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you - The word implies also, that lead or guide you; namely, in truth and holiness. And submit yourselves - Give up (not your conscience or judgment, but) your own will, in all things purely indifferent.
The GB is not leading in truth and holiness, they are a bunch of control hungry charlatans. My conscience no longer allows me to follow them.
Also, take a closer look at these passages:
1 Cor. 1:24: But that does not mean we want to dominate you by telling you how to put your faith into practice. We want to work together with you so you will be full of joy, for it is by your own faith that you stand firm. (NLT)
Math 20:25-28 But Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers in this world lord it over their people , and officials flaunt their authority over those under them. But among you it will be different. Whoever wants to be a leader among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first among you must become your slave . For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give his life as a ransom for many.” (NLT)
1Pet 5: 3.4: Don’t lord it over the people assigned to your care, but lead them by your own good example.And when the Great Shepherd appears, you will receive a crown of never-ending glory and honor. (NLT)
Could you consciously deny that the WT/GB is “lording over” the JW? under the claim that they represent Jehovah’s Organization on earth.
They want you to sacrifice your energy, your youth, you mind, your spirit before the altar of a soulless Corporation. And that my friend is no Christian leadership.
