Posts by Michelle365

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Let slip the dogs of war...

by sd-7 in

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the calm before session 2 of borg court is a chilling one.

quietly, our units go about their duties, but deep down, they're wondering: can we match swords with the very powers-that-be?

we are fighting against mount olympus itself, the elders, the organization--with our beloved wife and child looking on.

Michelle365

Thinking of you! I hope all is bearable after the latest session!

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

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i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Oh and YES it's freezing here. I was mostly teasing you but it's been like in the 60's here for ages and us Floridians don't have the means for survival in such frigid temps! lol. I don't have all those sweaters and boots I used to have when I was a teenager!

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

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friends

i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Michelle365

I was a year younger than Awsnap and we were really good friends and spent a lot of time together. I can attest to her relationship with her parents, having witnesses said fights and the aftermath quite a few times. I also know that the elders DID know her situation and her feelings and how her family life was as her parents seemed to me (correct me if I’m wrong Aw) to drag every problem they had with their child to the elders. Even tiny stupid day to day crap.

So for ME- I was sitting in the section directly behind the baptismal candidates, after all several of my friends were being baptized that day. I watched in horror as the elder came to get Awsnap and waited while she was gone for 90% of the baptismal talk. Every minute I was growing more agitated. Asking my mom, “where did they take her?” and “how can she get baptized if she misses the talk?” every few minutes. Apparently in my mind you have to be seated for the whole talk in THAT section or you don’t qualify. Lol.

Anyway, when you came back to get your stuff from your seat and you walked away you were facing my section and I could totally see your face and knew something was wrong. My parents, shockingly, let me go down to you. I remember us going off somewhere and you crying and saying you couldn’t get baptized because you had a fight with your mom that morning in the hotel. I was thinking- um so what? These kinds of fights happened daily with your parents and the elders were fully aware. I couldn’t understand how you qualified for baptisim the week before under those circumstances but now suddenly today in the midst of the talk you didn’t? (Perhaps it was because I never heard the caboodles part of it? It IS very important to keep those clean. ) I was mad at your parents at first for even telling the elders. Then I was mad at the elders for presuming they knew your heart condition. I thought baptisim is the “outward symbol of your dedication to God” and you were dedicated no matter how much you fought with your parents. I was OUTRAGED and probably not very good support for you at the time. ((((HUGS))))

It was then that I started to doubt the elders were lead by holy spirit. How could the God they taught us of, direct them to THAT course of action? How could they break your heart and spirit because your parents thought you had an attitude?? How could that be *right*? It didn’t stop me from getting baptized a year or so later unfortunately but it DID begin to open my mind to the possibility that an Almighty God wasn’t directing this organization. It took me MANY more years to actually walk away, but I can look back and see that your experience is where it all started for me.

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Michelle365

It's mostly Awsnap's story to tell. If she posts it, I'll add to it. It'd be hard for me to tell how it caused me to start to wake up without telling her story.

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Michelle365

Yeah it sucks that we didn't get to meet up for drinks when I was in your town. I'm not sure when my next visit will be. My offer to come to Florida is still open but it's fricking freezing here! lol.

I totally think you should that story up. Might be good for you and I'm sure it'd be interesting to many others.

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Michelle365

Not me that's for sure! Did I ever tell you that the assembly you *didn't* get baptized at was the first huge stumbling block for me? The way that whole thing went down planted the first major seed of doubt in my mind.

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I'm excited about life! ;-D

by AwSnap in

jw
friends

i just wanted to let you know of something that has liberated me recently.

i decorated my office with hearts for valentine's day this year.

my family has known for over ten years that i do not want to practice the jw faith, although i am not df'd or da'd.

Michelle365

Woot! Sounds liberating! I love your outlook and am so pleased you shared this!

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Michelle365

Oz

That truly is NOT acceptable. What are her "reasons" for not wanting you to spend more time with the kids? Is it truly just because you are df'd and she makes up the other stuff for the court? Here in the US the judges are not going to say that someone can't teach the kids a particular religion either. Here you have to prove that the religion is detrimental to the relationship with the parent. In Florida, (where I'm at) that is the main concern. Being that I am now df'd having my kids (6 & 8) go to meetings at all IS teaching them that I am "bad" as you all know. I too am so scared of them getting baptized and my ex also will not agree to wait until the turn 18. So my one hope here is that I can prove to a judge that this "religion" is detrimental to my relationship as a mother with my children. I found this one website (there are many others) http://www.jehovahswitnessesexperts.com/Experience/experience.html I have no idea what the cost is or if they have contacts in Australia but I do think the website is worth checking out AND they do free telephone consultations. They may be able to help or give you names of people closer to you. The good thing about JWs is that it's universal so while all of our local laws are different the religion is always the same.

My plan is that if I fail to prove to the judge that he should instruct my ex to NOT teach the kids anything about the religion (this actually has happened in quite a few cases) I'd like to change our custody schedule so that they miss more of the meetings. We split the time 50/50 but my ex has the girls on all the meeting times. We also do every other weekend and on my Sunday he comes to pick them up for the meeting. It's awful but it was the only way I could get divorced at the time. I too was weak and scared but am finally ready to fight back.

Here in Florida we have to meet with a "Parenting Coordinator" she's kinda like a counselor. She meets with us individually and then together and tries to facilitate negotiations and teach us ways to communicate better. This is a fruitless step and a waste of my money as we know there is no reasoning with hardcore JWs. After that we go to mediation. After THAT trial before a judge. It's a long expensive process and it's miserable.

I feel for you and all of us going through this. I will NOT lose my kids. I refuse. The borg can not take that from me too.

Feel free to PM me anytime if you want to vent or scream and cuss.

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

Michelle365

Hi! I'm in a very similar position with my ex. When we divorced the only way he would agree to every other weekend was if I agreed to let him take the girls to the meetings on MY Sundays. I agreed because at that point I just wanted to be divorced. NOW I am trying to keep the girls home on my Sundays and he won't agree. I filed a court action here to have the judge hear it and he called Child Protective Services on me. In fact, I'm meeting with them tonight.

I want so bad to get my kids out as well but what I really want is the next 11 years to FLY by so that I don't have to deal with my loser asshole fuck face ex husband ever again.

I really feel for you. I hope your situation works out soon!

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BOE on Disfellowshiped Relatives

by JWFreak in

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friends

again...please do not request a pdf scan these are interbranch copies not the same ones sent to the congregations.

jwf.. january 21, 2010 .

to all bodies of elders .

Michelle365

Thanks again for posting these! I must remember not to read them while eating. I'm so disgusted.