I took apart the "Reject what is false" on my blog a couple of days ago. I'm working on the Keynote address, I expect to have it up in a few days. You're right, its hard to listen to that crap. I think I'm missing a couple, I will certainly take a look at what you have up.
Posts by JeffT
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2013 District Convention God's Word Is Truth MP3 is ready!
by OneDayillBeFree inalright.
so i got a sendspace and uploaded the whole thing except for the songs and morning music.. the link to all the mp3's is here!
for some reason it starts with the last talk first but they're all numbered and titled according to the convention so it should'nt be too hard i hope.. do with them what you please, upload them to youtube, send them to friends & family, or just see how far you can stomach some of the "fine spiritual food that the faithful and discreet slave has prepared for us this year".. some key talks you might wanna listen to are 12 symposium: the truth sets us free, 16 believe inspired truth, not inspired error, 20 symposium: reject what is false!
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Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...
by sosoconfused inso i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.
nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.
his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.
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JeffT
Wow. I can't remember now what I told my wife about what I did in college before I became a JW. If this holds up she might have grounds for a divovrce. One more reason to be glad we left at the same time.
I wonder if they're going to tell every potential convert that they need to 'fess up to any person of the opposite sex they might become attracted to.
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Anyone with a Mormon background? Wedding with a non-believer.
by jam inok here's the deal.
i posted previous about my son and his mormon girlfriend.
well they are now planning to get married.. can a mormon elder ( not sure what they are called) perform the marriage or will he.
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JeffT
Back about 1976 my wife's half sister married a Mormon. I don't think she had any religious preference, the parents were studying with JW's at the time. So they ended up with a JW elder performing the service in my in-laws back yard, attending by JW's, Mormon's and various friends and relatives. I believe they had a private Mormon service later, she ended up converting and they had a temple wedding a few years later.
About all I can say is hope for the best, brace for the worst.
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District Convention Symposium “Reject What is False!
by JeffT ini have obtained audio of a good portion of this year's convention program i just posted my analysis of this part on my blog.
while the talk on apostates generated a lot of buzz on the net, the rest of the program contains some real lunacy.
i expect to concentrate my efforts there.
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JeffT
I have obtained audio of a good portion of this year's convention program I just posted my analysis of this part on my blog. While the talk on apostates generated a lot of buzz on the net, the rest of the program contains some real lunacy. I expect to concentrate my efforts there.
I'm going to be trying to post something every week or ten days in order to impose some discipline of my writing. I've gotten very busy on another project (non-jw related novel) which is spured by an expression of interest from a publisher. Keep checking back an I may not post quite so many of these messages, unless you all think they're helpful.
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did Russell come up with 1914 via the pyramid or just confirm it via pyramid
by Crazyguy inso i read somewhere that the 1914 date came from bourbor and that russell used the pyramid to confirm his belief in 1914. its this accurate?
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JeffT
wiki has a good article on Smyth and the great pyramid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Piazzi_Smyth
It's hard to say who came up with which idea first. In the second half of the 19th century all sorts of nutty ideas were floating around. Days for years, invisible presences and pyramids were just the tip of the iceberg. People took the idea of fairey's seriously, also self-teleportation, astrology, the history of Atlantis and Mu, levitation by mental power, mind reading, palmistry, phrenology; take your pick. It's all the same dope, just in a different baggie.
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Price gouging after natural disasters ... where should capitalism end?
by Simon ini'm sure you're all getting bored by my discussion of the recent 2013 flooding in southern alberta and flood insurance but as you can imagine it's on everyone's mind here right now.. the latest issue in the news now is price gouging and overcharging after a natural disaster.. some claim to have been overcharged by people profiteering after the floods.. some of the cases seem like misunderstandings - if you go to a 7/11 that normally sells bottled water individually and you want to buy a whole flat of it, i don't think you should suddenly expect costco prices for it.. but others do seem like they are taking advantage ... or are they?.
one could argue that high prices will smooth out demand and prevent greedy people from stockpiling more than they need that they may otherwise buy and hoard.. isn't it the ultimate manifestation of free-market economics, sullply and demand to set the price?
capitalism at work?.
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JeffT
Nobody is complaining about the National Guard brining in free supplies. Most of us regard it as a good example of why we pay taxes. And the US government doesn't have to worry about what it costs to get stuff from one place to another.
And waiting in line is just another form of paying the cost.
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Another Cancer Cure?
by metatron inhttp://www.thenhf.com/article.php?id=771.
i heard about gc-maf years ago.
little or nothing has been developed since then, even though it might be effective against cancer, aids, and much more.. the dose used is in nanograms - very tiny.. metatron.
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JeffT
What snare&racket and cantleave said. This sensationalist crap does not need any more promotion. Any study that does not involve a significant number of patients, a control group, and long term follow up is sel-promotion, not science. As a point of comparison, the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center tracks its former patients until they're dead.
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Price gouging after natural disasters ... where should capitalism end?
by Simon ini'm sure you're all getting bored by my discussion of the recent 2013 flooding in southern alberta and flood insurance but as you can imagine it's on everyone's mind here right now.. the latest issue in the news now is price gouging and overcharging after a natural disaster.. some claim to have been overcharged by people profiteering after the floods.. some of the cases seem like misunderstandings - if you go to a 7/11 that normally sells bottled water individually and you want to buy a whole flat of it, i don't think you should suddenly expect costco prices for it.. but others do seem like they are taking advantage ... or are they?.
one could argue that high prices will smooth out demand and prevent greedy people from stockpiling more than they need that they may otherwise buy and hoard.. isn't it the ultimate manifestation of free-market economics, sullply and demand to set the price?
capitalism at work?.
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JeffT
there is no need for the shopkeepers to double the price of common goods.
Sure there is. My wife and I lived in Pullman, WA; about three hundred miles down wind of Mt St. Helens when it blew in 1980. Everything in that town comes in on a truck from somewhere. Interstate 90, the main road across the state was closed for a week by the ash fall. Trucks probably had to drive two or three hundred extra miles to get stuff into our area. That's extra gas and extra pay to the drivers. That has to get paid some how.
A few things were funny, we did actually come close to running out of toilet paper. Pullman is a college town, at the time about sixteen thousand students in a town of 25,000. St Helens blew on Sunday morning, by Monday afternoon the entire town was out of beer. On Tuesday a distributor brought in an eighteen wheeler loaded with cheap beer. I think he came in on back roads from Lewiston, ID to dodge state patrol closures on the highway. The price in the stores was then about twice what it had been on Saturday and they sold all of it in hours. A good lesson in the law of supply and demand in an emergency.
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DC Drama stirs up drama of it's own!!!
by DATA-DOG inremember the drama about persecution,suffering, that a modern-day job experiences?
the jw's under ban in a " landmark ruling", our faithful brother conversing with job in the new world, it' all too wonderful!
especially job wearing pants and a tunic style shirt!
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JeffT
WTF? I thought the big deal with Living Forever on Paradise Earth was being reunited with loved ones (well and petting tigers). What's the point of being reunited with a dead wife if you can't even hold her hand? Any married couple that actually loved each other would be driven completely nuts but such a situation.
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After Much Study, Can You Personally Figure Out The 1914 Dilemma??? (Daniel 7th Chapter)
by bjc2read inwe all know, any avid student of scripture in our time, can easily learn from their personal study of the holy writings, that jesus christ was clearly given the inestimable privilege to "sit upon god's throne," yes, being enthroned in the first century, and upon his resurrection where he was magnificently proclaimed a permanent "son of god," on an everlasting basis.
(see romans 1:4; revelation 3:12.
) this is an indisputable fact.
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JeffT
You can tell us what your current understanding of Daniel the 7th chapter is, that's since your [mental] escape from Watchtower Land and GB thinking.
I'll bite. Nebuchanezzer had a wierd dream, he was so strange and intense he thought it must mean something. Daniel wrote it down and people have been making the same mistake ever since.