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  What constitutes 'proof' on JWN?

  by besty in

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  recently there have been a few threads where claims have been made alledging personal negative effects in 'real life' following internet activity on jwn and other ex-jw related sites.

  discussion then ensues, aspects of which may include 3rd parties either disputing the truth or affirming the likelihood of the claim.

  questions are asked.

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  JeffT

  It depends a lot on what is being discussed. If I say that mid level corporate accountants in the Seattle area earn an average salary of $45,750/yr that is an easily verified factoid. I can say my wife and I mailed our DA letter on March 18, 1989 and that is true but unverifiable because I have no idea where my copy of the letter is. Or even if it still exists. People will have to believe or disbelieve that as suits them. If I say that poster "x" called me a stupid Republican people who know something of both me and poster "x" will form their own opinions based on what they know of us - and those opinions may tell you more about the people forming them than it will about me and poster "x."
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  Water Fluoridation

  by still thinking in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.

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  JeffT

  Hey guys oxygen is poisonous

  So are water, salt and alchohol to name a few more.

  If you want to worry about something real investigate the ingredients in your deoderents, make-up, hair products, and perfumes - if you can. The big chemical corps behind those industries don't want to talk about what's in the crap you're smearing all over your bodies.
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  Poor Carly Simon

  by Hortensia in

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  she looks so stiff and old next to taylor swift.

  geriatric singer/songwriter.

  nice to see them sing the song together, though.

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  JeffT

  I had no idea Cyndi Lauper is 60. She's aged nicely.
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  Water Fluoridation

  by still thinking in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.

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  JeffT

  I see that Republicans and fundamentalists don't have a lock on scientific ignorance.

  Sammie, do you want to apply point two to chlorine as well? Or should we go back to the days when you're drinking water could kill you?

  That flouride in drinking water reduces cavities is an established fact. As Bohm points out dose is the key. There is no evidence that the dose level in drinking water is harmful.

  There is not "formula" for flouide that can be tinkered with. Its the anion of the element Flourine. This does not present an opportunity to dump other toxins into our drinking water. This is the argument the John Birch Society was making in 1966 when we wanted to put Floride in our water in the Seattle area. Except they thought it was going to be done by communists not corporations. Might make an interesting study to see when the bad guy changed.
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  Water Fluoridation

  by still thinking in

  1. jw
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2vcgb_pgbte#at=679.

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  JeffT

  When I was young the anti-floridation crowd consisted almost exclusivly of ultra-right wing nut cases that said it was a communist plot.

  I guess times have changed.
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  Poor Carly Simon

  by Hortensia in

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  she looks so stiff and old next to taylor swift.

  geriatric singer/songwriter.

  nice to see them sing the song together, though.

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  JeffT

  I'm 62, as far as I'm concerned Carly is a contemporary. Taylor Swift is a kid. If I have a choice of who to spend an evening with its a nobrainer. I much prefer adult company. Upon further thought, I realize that my youngest child probably thinks Taylor Swift is a kid.
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  HELP NEEDED for the book I'm writing!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm about 90% finished on a book i started nine years ago.

  it will deal with jehovah's witness policy on conscientious objectors during war time.

  from the 1800's through the end of the draft in the early 1970's.. i am also giving a personal biographical account of my own introduction to the religion, process of assimilation and ministry experience.. additionally, i'm working in timelines connecting the 2nd adventist teachings with russell, rutherford and mainstream watchtower doctrines.. .

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  Terry

  Unlike fiction (which is what I'm trying to get published) non-fiction can be marketed to agents/publishers with a good query letter and outline of the material to be covered. I would recommend putting together such a package, with the help of a professional editor and start sending out proposals. You will probably end up with some expert advice on how best to proceed.
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  Stuff You Would Lose If You Went Back

  by Nosferatu in

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  so we know all the things the wts prevents us from doing, but that's much, much different than the stuff we've grown accustomed to.. for those who have been out for a number of years, what kind of things would end up being abandoned if you suddenly started going back to the kingdom hall?

  you know, stuff that you now do on the nights you used to attend meetings, the things you own, the things you wear, etc..

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  I doubt I could list it all. My beard, most of what's in my computer's hard drive, my sense of self-worth. Probably my sobriety and certainly all of my friends in AA. My granddaughter's school. Any relationship with my now adult children and probably my freedom when they had me committed to an institution. Plans to go to my daughter's lesbian wedding. Any chance of getting a book published. My music collection, most of my library, the two 1/700 model warships I'm working on. My marriage has survived a lot, I'm not sure it could withstand my going back to the KH.

  Upon careful consideration, I do not think I will be going back anytime soon.
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  Tree Hugging

  by still thinking in

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  tree hugging now scientifically validated .

  die hard conservatives love to disparage liberals as tree huggers, but it has been recently scientifically validated that hugging trees is actually good for you.

  research has shown that you don't even have to touch a tree to get better, you just need to be within its vicinity has a beneficial effect.. in a recently published book, blinded by science, the author matthew silverstone, proves scientifically that trees do in fact improve many health issues such as attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (adhd), concentration levels, reaction times, depression and other forms of mental illness.

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  I've known since I was a kid that going for a walk in the woods was fun and relaxing.
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  brittania waives the rules

  by bigmac in

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  the royal navy is proud to announce its new fleet of type 45 destroyers.

  having initially named the first two ships hms daring and hms dauntless, the naming committee has, after intensive pressure from brussels , renamed them hms cautious and hms prudence.

  the next five ships are to be hms empathy, hms circumspect, hms nervous, hms timorous and hms apologist.

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  JeffT

  This has been around awhile, but should be repeated in this thread. Modern Nelson at Traflagar.

  Nelson: "Order the signal, Hardy."
  
  Hardy: "Aye, aye sir."
  
  Nelson: "Hold on, that's not what I dictated to Flags. What's the
  meaning of this?"
  
  Hardy: "Sorry sir?"
  
  Nelson (reading aloud): "' England expects every person to do his or
  her duty, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religious
  persuasion or disability.' - What gobbledegook is this?"
  
  Hardy: "Admiralty policy, I'm afraid, sir. We're an equal
  opportunities employer now. We had the devil's own job getting '
  England ' past the censors, lest it be considered racist."
  
  Nelson: "Gadzooks, Hardy. Hand me my pipe and tobacco."
  
  Hardy: "Sorry sir. All naval vessels have now been designated
  smoke-free working environments."
  
  Nelson: "In that case, break open the rum ration. Let us splice the
  mainbrace to steel the men before battle."
  
  Hardy: "The rum ration has been abolished, Admiral. Its part of the
  Government's policy on binge drinking."
  
  Nelson: "Good heavens, Hardy. I suppose we'd better get on with it
  ........... full speed ahead."
  
  Hardy: "I think you'll find that there's a 4 knot speed limit in this
  stretch of water."
  
  Nelson: "Damn it man! We are on the eve of the greatest sea battle in
  history. We must advance with all dispatch. Report from the crow's
  nest please."
  
  Hardy: "That won't be possible, sir."
  
  Nelson: "What?"
  
  Hardy: "Health and Safety have closed the crow's nest, sir. No
  harness; and they said that rope ladders don't meet regulations. They
  won't let anyone up there until a proper scaffolding can be erected."
  
  Nelson: "Then get me the ship's carpenter without delay, Hardy."
  
  Hardy: "He's busy knocking up a wheelchair access to the foredeck
  Admiral."
  
  Nelson: "Wheelchair access? I've never heard anything so absurd."
  
  Hardy: "Health and safety again, sir. We have to provide a
  barrier-free environment for the differently abled."
  
  Nelson: "Differently abled? I've only one arm and one eye and I refuse
  even to hear mention of the word. I didn't rise to the rank of admiral
  by playing the disability card."
  
  Hardy: "Actually, sir, you did. The Royal Navy is under represented in
  the areas of visual impairment and limb deficiency."
  
  Nelson: "Whatever next? Give me full sail. The salt spray beckons."
  
  Hardy: "A couple of problems there too, sir. Health and safety won't
  let the crew up the rigging without hard hats. And they don't want
  anyone breathing in too much salt - haven't you seen the adverts?"
  
  Nelson: "I've never heard such infamy. Break out the cannon and tell
  the men to stand by to engage the enemy."
  
  Hardy: "The men are a bit worried about shooting at anyone, Admiral."
  
  Nelson: "What? This is mutiny!"
  
  Hardy: "It's not that, sir. It's just that they're afraid of being
  charged with murder if they actually kill anyone. There's a couple of
  legal-aid lawyers on board, watching everyone like hawks."
  
  Nelson: "Then how are we to sink the Frenchies and the Spanish?"
  
  Hardy: "Actually, sir, we're not."
  
  Nelson: "We're not?"
  
  Hardy: "No, sir. The French and the Spanish are our European partners
  now. According to the Common Fisheries Policy, we shouldn't even be in
  this stretch of water. We could get hit with a claim for
  compensation."
  
  Nelson: "But you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil."
  
  Hardy: "I wouldn't let the ship's diversity co-ordinator hear you
  saying that sir. You'll be up on disciplinary report."
  
  Nelson: "You must consider every man an enemy, who speaks ill of your
  King."
  
  Hardy: "Not any more, sir. We must be inclusive in this multicultural
  age. Now put on your Kevlar vest; it's the rules. It could save your
  life"
  
  Nelson: "Don't tell me - health and safety. Whatever happened to rum,
  sodomy and the lash?"
  
  Hardy: As I explained, sir, rum is off the menu! And there's a ban on
  corporal punishment."
  
  Nelson: "What about sodomy?"
  
  Hardy: "I believe that is now legal, sir."
  
  Nelson: "In that case............................... kiss me, Hardy."