Posts by JeffT

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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

by Mary in

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ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

JeffT

8 here.

There were also some elders who were entirely sincere and who cared a great deal for the r&f who were struggling. They stood up to oppressive elders and tried to comfort and encourage others. Their constant message was to appreciate whatever others could manage, however small and to not judge other's decisions and choices.

The elder that officiated our wedding was like this. After a few years he couldn't take it anymore and quit being an elder. He got talked into being an elder and then quit again. I have no idea where he is now. Straight up guys either can't be straight up guys anymore, or they can't be elders.

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JW Net documentary

by snare&racket in

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i would like to make a documentary with help from the same technology that got me free of watchtower, namely the internet.

also via the same people that helped me leave, namely...you lot!.

i want to make the documentary that jw's find when they google jw.org.

JeffT

I'm interested. I don't need to disguise voice, face or even my name. I think I have a headset and microphone around here somewhere.

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new assembly experience... what do you reckon to this one?

by purrpurr in

ok so aparently there was this young girl who wanted to study with the jw's because she loved the bible so much.

she asked her fathers permission but he refused, after much nagging though he said she could have a study if she was prepared to have one of her fingers chopped off.

he thought the is would stop her but she was willing so he got a knife and cut off one of her fingers... a little while later she wanted to attend the meetings and he said no and again when nagged said she could attend meetings if she had another finger chopped off so she agreed and he chopped off a second finger.

JeffT

If I was her father I would have told her to just get a lobotomy and be done with it.

This story is obviously BS.

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NEWS : New developments in the London Bethel relocation story

by raymond frantz in

london bethel relocation the story so farthere are new developments in the relocation of the london bethel development .

a landowner has agreed unconditionally to sell her rundown car breakers yard to jehovahs witnesses for their new uk headquarters, it emerged this week.. the international bible students association (ibsa) paid a deposit, agreed a final price and swapped contracts with charmaine small this month for temple farm in ship road, west hanningfield.. ms small has promised the ibsa the charity used by the religious sect to distribute its literature that dozens of car dealers will vacate the 50-acre farm over the next few months.. speaking to the chronicle, stephen morris, of the ibsa branch relocation department, said...(read full article here ).

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JeffT

<---------------- has considerable experience in real estate investment

I think its simple. They're selling expensive properties in the cities and buying cheap properties in the country. Then they invest the difference.

Selling currently owned property and buying new property does not hide anything from lawyers trying to collect on lawsuits. The only way to escape that would be to disolve the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and disband the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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NEWS : New developments in the London Bethel relocation story

by raymond frantz in

london bethel relocation the story so farthere are new developments in the relocation of the london bethel development .

a landowner has agreed unconditionally to sell her rundown car breakers yard to jehovahs witnesses for their new uk headquarters, it emerged this week.. the international bible students association (ibsa) paid a deposit, agreed a final price and swapped contracts with charmaine small this month for temple farm in ship road, west hanningfield.. ms small has promised the ibsa the charity used by the religious sect to distribute its literature that dozens of car dealers will vacate the 50-acre farm over the next few months.. speaking to the chronicle, stephen morris, of the ibsa branch relocation department, said...(read full article here ).

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JeffT

who pays for the environmental cleanup of that site? I don't know how it works in the UK, in the US that would be a pile of money. I would guess there's fifty thousand cubic yards of contaminated dirt on that site. Plus all the cars etc.

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The great Jack Bruce of Cream passes

by designs in

the premier bassist of his generation, his songs made many love babies.

rock on forever jb..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdo0juekqm.

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JeffT

Sad. I saw Cream in 1968, they put on a good show.

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Sun Darkening eclipse

by prologos in

in the greater seattle area, with some blue sky showing, does anybody see a partially covered solar disk?.

yes, with the whisps of cloud acting as a substitue filter, the moon has nibbled at the sun's right upper corner.

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JeffT

I live in Mill Creek, it hasn't stopped raining long enough to tell.

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Shootings in multiple locations in Canada's capital today - Wed Oct 22/14

by Heaven in

one soldier is shot at war memorial.

multiple shooters suspected.

national post has live updates:.

JeffT

So we have now joined the most oppressive regime of the 20th Century in its new Holy War against the Middle East,

Really?

I'd suggest a trip to the library, or at least spend some time on Google to get a bit of perspective. Here are a few names to look up, in no particular order. Stalin, Hitler, Lenin, Pol Pot, Enver Pasha, Mao, several guys named Kim, Pinochet, the Argentine Junta, Ceausescu. That's a good start. We may have some problems but we're no where near "most oppressive."

As to OP, my thoughts are with the people of Canada today, no matter what the motivation of the person or persons who did this, you didn't deserve it.

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a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

by alexandre in

a baptized girl from my former cong.

was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

JeffT

Sir82 got it right. This is a crime. The girl needs professional counseling and anybody else involved needs investigating. Shunning is the least responsible thing the elders could do.

First question the cops and counselors are going to want answered is: is she the victim of prior abuse by an adult? It is not uncommon for abused children to act out in very inappropriate ways, because that's what they've been taught to do.

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One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

"rent/extortion) were even met.

$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

JeffT

OK I just took a look at conference spaces in the Seattle area. I can get one in Shoreline (suburb a little north of Seattle) that will hold 600 people. It costs around $150-200 a day (weekends are at the top of that range) for a non-profit. There's a bigger venue in Bellevue, that can comfortably handle 3000 people. I can't find rates for that area, but I doubt it runs more than $2000 - 3000 a day.