what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?
Be careful what you wish for.
Millions of loyal adherents would be devastated. There would be thousands of suicides, and the survivors would almost certainly glom onto other, possibly far more damaging, cults.
This. JW's have been trained to follow. If the WTBS comes down in a crash they'll find somebody else to follow. If it dies a natural death they may wake up and find better things to do, but they will have to find it on their own.
No. One trillion lions weigh 500,000,000,000,000,000 pounds
The sun weighs 4,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pounds
Go back to bed.
yes friends.....this is the comment said to me by an elder!.
"your bad attitude is evident because you don't bring your meeting bag anymore!".
i calmly replied: "but everything i need is on the tablet now......".
I was once criticized because my field service book bag was not heavy enough
I wish some one had said something like that to me toward the end of my time in the Borg. I worked in a lab, I could have borrowed a 25 pound lead brick to drop in the bag. That would have given whoever picked up something to think about.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187163/getting-my-ged-can-go-college.
i started this topic 5 years ago letting everyone know i had decide to get my ged and go to college in hopes of getting an education so that i could have a career instead of just a job.
i wanted fulfillment and a future, not just another job that has no really future in it.
a statement that phizzy made on jonathan drake's thread on flyers gave me the following ideas.. we should make a flyer on the issue of the watchtower pedophilia issue written with the object of alerting the public about the jw door to door activity.
phizzy suggested the title, "the paedophile at your door".. on that flyer should be the contact information of our most informed member on the subject who's willing to talk to the media.
barbara anderson perhaps?.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-are-not-done-yet-candace-reacts-to-appeal-court-decision.
candace conti (pictured in her interview with abc) has spoken out for the first time about the appeal court decision.
as current and former jehovahs witnesses digest the news that watchtowers appeal against the candace conti verdict has faltered, albeit with the punitive element of the judgment reversed, candace has reacted for the first time by telling me: we are not done yet.. news spread on monday that the state appeals court in san francisco had upheld the $2.8 million compensatory damages in the original june 2012 verdict, but overturned the $8.6 million punitive award against watchtower.. the court decided that, though watchtower had neglected its responsibility to supervise known pedophile jonathan kendrick in field ministry, a church-sponsored activity, the organization had no duty to warn parents in the congregation that a pedophile was in their midst or report him to authorities.. an insightful report by investigative reporter trey bundy has suggested that the court reached its decision because the precedent set by the conti verdict might be too burdensome to enforce.. the burden would be considerable because the precedent could require a church to intervene whenever it has reason to believe that a congregation member is capable of doing harm, and the scope of that duty could not be limited with any precision, the judges wrote.. candaces attorney rick simons responded by pointedly telling bundy: they think in public policy terms that theres too much risk in broadening the churchs responsibility and liability so that it burdens what churches do.
It seems to me that a piece of the court's reasoning on this, is that determining the actual level of liability in these matters requires a legislative, not judicial, action. The legislature can pass laws saying that church leaders have a duty (for instance) to warn congregants about child molesters, but not shop lifters.
I think this is what's behind the talk about setting a burdensome precedent. If the court decides that the WTBS is liable it has no way of stating where that liability ends. This would flood the courts with potential suits.
So, what we all need to do is petition our legislators to pass regulations regarding background checks etc for ALL adults who work with children.
you have to lead a secret life as a jw.
you're not supposed to over drink, go to night clubs, enjoy worldly concerts, etc.....sex, though is really taboo.
you could never freely talk about your sex life.
i profess to teach the truth to you all and get you to all to think and believe.
believing in christ through his words and not through evil religious cults, like hoj and jw, can and will save you.
do you all realize that every time you are victorious and receive something of value through your hard work and sweat, it was our holy god who blessed you.
I'm a Christian. As such I'm a follower of Jesus, not a follower of other followers. I do not attend any church or profess any particular doctrine because I believe that God wants me to answer any question I have for myself. Like Faye, I'm put off by arrogance.
PS, learn how to right an intelligent, concise paragraph. Your post is unreadably verbose and unfocused.
www.newscientiat.com there goes the argument gay men can't have kids.
Here's a better link.
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for this to happen. For starters keep in mind that surgeons and internists seem to have differing definitions of the word "success." As seen in this quote from the article:
The first successful head transplant, in which one head was replaced by another, was carried out in 1970. A team led by Robert White at Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine in Cleveland, Ohio, transplanted the head of one monkey onto the body of another. They didn't attempt to join the spinal cords, though, so the monkey couldn't move its body, but it was able to breathe with artificial assistance. The monkey lived for nine days until its immune system rejected the head.
While the surgical techniques seem to be close, there are a lot of other technologies involved in a transplant. I guess we'll know in a year or two.
PS: where are you going to get the bodies to attach the heads to?
i recently came across the very first kingdom song i ever heard.
twickenham, 1955. i was just a kid then of course, but i do recall the "buzz" that seemed to permeate everything, not dis-similar to that of an international rugby match.
people were smiling while singing their hearts out, the lunch-time queues for the cafeteria full of old friends getting re-aquainted, young lads and lasses eyeing one another and blushing furiously, sessions 2 untl 4 then 7 until 9.30 giving folk plenty of time to socialise.. where did it all go wrong?.
I agree with many of the comments above.
I became a witness in 1973, at age 22. The local congregation was a small, friendly, close-knit group. We had a lot fun at dinner parties, congregation picnics, restaurants after assemblies; it really felt like being part of a family. People were much more engaged with discussions of doctrines, scriptures, how to explain things etc.
This may still be true in some of the smaller congregations, I wouldn't know. But from what I've seen and read, that's all gone away. I think that started with the 1975 failure, but a number of structural changes added to the problem. The GB seem to be intent on regulating every single aspect of the members' lives. They also seem to oppose anything that might be fun. The book study (which was a nice chance to meet in smaller group) is gone. So are the picnics etc. The only new thought I can recall seeing in a Watchtower in years was the generation thing, which has to look silly even to the most die hard Witness. So all they are left with is the treadmill.
