Posts by JeffT

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Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

by Tenacious in

for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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happy reading!.

JeffT

This book woke me up. Thank goodness for people that care more about people trying to escape this cult rather than some copyright infringement of peoole that are no longer alive.

See my comments about means justifying ends. As noted above, the copyright belongs to a living person. What other illegal/immoral actions to you sanction to attack the WTBS? At what point do you become that which you are trying to fight?

If the current copyright holder can't get it done she should give it to someone who can. That's what I would do. I belive many here would do the same. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

How many books have your published? Do you have any idea what it takes to update a text, verify all the quotes, make sure all the references are correct, and then put it all into a current publication format? Since you seem to think its all so easy, maybe you should volunteer to quit your job and go do it.

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Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

by Tenacious in

for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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happy reading!.

JeffT

I'm going to seek copyright permission first then I'll activate links once more.

Thank you, this is the right way to go about this. If the current copyright holder is having trouble getting the book republished perhaps she will authorize some alternate method of getting it to the public.

I understand that many people think that this is an important book that needs to be available to the public, I do too. But we need to be very careful when we start down the road of "the ends justify the means." Violating copyright is taking some one's personal property, plain and simple.

Perhaps we can work a deal with the copyright holder (I've forgotten her name) to get copies into public libraries, at least.

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Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

by Tenacious in

for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

.

happy reading!.

JeffT

Great, more copyright violations. I realize these are great books, and lots of people want them, but as a free lance writer I'm offended that people care so little about ownership.

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What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

by Wasanelder Once in

the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

first, i found out.

i found out.

JeffT

"Tommy" - The Who. The entire album is about breaking free of cult-think.

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The worst idea in the world

by Bugbear in

now i´ve been thinking …(a very rare occupation for my brain) and the question is :.

what could be the very worst/dangerous/harmful thought in our head?.

could it be that we are more beautiful / stronger / smarter / faster than the rest of our human brothers or sisters?.

JeffT

I think God is only one aspect of the problem. In my book, anybody who thinks he knows how every one ought to think and act, and sets out to beat them into thinking and acting that way, is dangerous, at best.

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More daming evidence against evolution from an expert

by konceptual99 in

don't worry, i'm taking the piss.

it's just another jw.org video promoting one of their own who had the benefit of a university education and medical training before they became a witness and letting him try and debunk years of research with an appeal to emotion about the placenta.

https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodintexp/pub-jwbiv_201608_1_video.

JeffT

Come on Cofty, the man has a white coat on. How wrong can he be?

They're taking a page right out of Milgram's play book. (Look up Stanley Milgram) Of course JW's have never heard of him, and would draw the wrong conclusions if they did. The fact that the guy studied Medicine means nothing when he's talking about evolution, but to the ignorant, it sounds impressive.

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

JeffT

So renting is cheaper than owning.....

It doesn't make any difference to the WTBS. The rent will be included with the expenses of the assembly, which will be paid by the attendees, along with the the $10 per attendee or whatever the daily rate is these days. The WTBS will get its designated cut and the little people will pick up the tab for the building whether its $1 or $1,000,000.

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The latest from DPRK Newservice

by JeffT in

for those not familiar with dprk it's a twitter feed along the lines of the onion.

this tidbit just came out.. as population ages, "feuding with computer strangers" surpasses "drunken binges" as most popular form of recreation in united states..

JeffT

For those not familiar with DPRK it's a twitter feed along the lines of The Onion. This tidbit just came out.

As population ages, "feuding with computer strangers" surpasses "drunken binges" as most popular form of recreation in United States.

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Why disbelieving in God is foolish

by HopeEverLasting in

jw
friends

look, now before i speak, i want to say that it is very okay for someone to not believe.

are they hurting anyone?

killing anyone?

JeffT

Your attitude brings dishonor to the God you claim to represent. People like you are why most members of this forum no longer believe in God. As I said, I still believe, but people like you are why I quit going to church.

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Why are the atheists on this site so hateful?

by HopeEverLasting in

jw
friends

all us creationists try to do is offer true evidence that the one and only god is out there watching and looking down on us.

we present that certain scientists know the truth about god and that he is everything that we see from trees, life, weather, the air we breath, and even the most simple molecules.

but of course you atheists reject it because it is your nature to not be humble and see god because you want to rule your own life.

JeffT

You all are just one big mob. Only here to attack those who have trust in God.

As I said, I'm not an atheist. I've been on this board for fifteen years and I've never felt I can't post my opinions here. What I do know is that I can't come here and demand that everyone agree with me. Some of the arguments get heated, I expect that, it is a discussion board after all.

The problem (which YOU can't seem to see) is that too many believers stomp in here spewing arrogant self-righteousness and complaining that people don't bow down to them as messengers sent by God. If you want to see lack of humility, go look in the mirror.

I would suggest you start your own message board, and then you'll never have to talk to anybody that disagrees with you.