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  What do you think would have happened to you if...

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?

  what do you think would have happened to you?

  no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.

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  JeffT

  My wife and I stopped going to all meetings in 1988, and DA'd in 1989. We spent all our free time doing research in bookstores and libraries. In late 1988 we met up with a support group of XJW's that met once a month in church about half an hour away from our house. It took some time, but we built new lives and new friends. Most of her family and all of mine were non-JW's so we had somewhere to go for company.
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  Novella is done

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the complete text of my novella "armageddon's slaves" is now posted on my blog.

  i created my own religion for this, as i want it to be about more than one religion.

  i'm sure you'll find a lot that feels familiar.

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  JeffT

  The complete text of my novella "Armageddon's Slaves" is now posted on my blog. I created my own religion for this, as I want it to be about more than one religion. I'm sure you'll find a lot that feels familiar.

  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/
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  Being nice to LGBTQ people is an affront to god?

  by Viviane in

  1. social
  2. current

  this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".

  seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.

  http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.

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  JeffT

  He'd rather be fired than watch a required video? Seems to me the solution to his problem is obvious.
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  JeffT

  A remarkable woman. She certainly left her mark on the world. She will be missed.

  My condolences to the family.
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  This book woke me up. Thank goodness for people that care more about people trying to escape this cult rather than some copyright infringement of peoole that are no longer alive.

  See my comments about means justifying ends. As noted above, the copyright belongs to a living person. What other illegal/immoral actions to you sanction to attack the WTBS? At what point do you become that which you are trying to fight?

  
  

  If the current copyright holder can't get it done she should give it to someone who can. That's what I would do. I belive many here would do the same. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

  How many books have your published? Do you have any idea what it takes to update a text, verify all the quotes, make sure all the references are correct, and then put it all into a current publication format? Since you seem to think its all so easy, maybe you should volunteer to quit your job and go do it.
  
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  I'm going to seek copyright permission first then I'll activate links once more.

  Thank you, this is the right way to go about this. If the current copyright holder is having trouble getting the book republished perhaps she will authorize some alternate method of getting it to the public.

  I understand that many people think that this is an important book that needs to be available to the public, I do too. But we need to be very careful when we start down the road of "the ends justify the means." Violating copyright is taking some one's personal property, plain and simple.

  Perhaps we can work a deal with the copyright holder (I've forgotten her name) to get copies into public libraries, at least.

  
  
  
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  Great, more copyright violations. I realize these are great books, and lots of people want them, but as a free lance writer I'm offended that people care so little about ownership.
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  What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. experiences

  the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

  first, i found out.

  i found out.

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  JeffT

  "Tommy" - The Who. The entire album is about breaking free of cult-think.
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  The worst idea in the world

  by Bugbear in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now i´ve been thinking …(a very rare occupation for my brain) and the question is :.

  what could be the very worst/dangerous/harmful thought in our head?.

  could it be that we are more beautiful / stronger / smarter / faster than the rest of our human brothers or sisters?.

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  JeffT

  I think God is only one aspect of the problem. In my book, anybody who thinks he knows how every one ought to think and act, and sets out to beat them into thinking and acting that way, is dangerous, at best.
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  More daming evidence against evolution from an expert

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't worry, i'm taking the piss.

  it's just another jw.org video promoting one of their own who had the benefit of a university education and medical training before they became a witness and letting him try and debunk years of research with an appeal to emotion about the placenta.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodintexp/pub-jwbiv_201608_1_video.

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  JeffT

  Come on Cofty, the man has a white coat on. How wrong can he be?

  They're taking a page right out of Milgram's play book. (Look up Stanley Milgram) Of course JW's have never heard of him, and would draw the wrong conclusions if they did. The fact that the guy studied Medicine means nothing when he's talking about evolution, but to the ignorant, it sounds impressive.