I was an accountant in investment real estate, including development for many years. I would estimate $300-500 million. Personally, I doubt they saved all that much on labor. Using volunteers for stuff like this is notoriously inefficient. If you take the total cost of running a building (repairs, remodels, utilities etc) for the life of the building, construction costs are a small fraction of the total. Having to go back and do slip shod work over again is going to cost them in the future.
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any contractors here that can give an educated estimate of what warwick cost?
by nowwhat? injust wonderin'.
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The 'Like' button option is a joke
by fukitol ini just 'liked' the same post 6 times in a row.. what a joke simon.
sort it out!.
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JeffT
Hey Simon how about a "I have no life" button that people can punch as often as they feel the need to?
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How deep is the rot?
by JeffT inby now it seems obvious that the gb and other leaders of the wtbs are corrupt.
the pedo scandal and various financial schemes are sustained by either lack of concern or greed at the top.
my question is how far down the food chain does this go?
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By now it seems obvious that the GB and other leaders of the WTBS are corrupt. The pedo scandal and various financial schemes are sustained by either lack of concern or greed at the top. My question is how far down the food chain does this go? Are local elders just as complicit in what's going on, or have they been duped into accepting the Society's whitewash of events? I've been out for so long I have no idea what is happening at the local level.
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Do You Trust The News Media?
by minimus inobviously, trump doesn't.
but do you?
do you think that they are generally fair, unbiased and honest?.
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NO
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"You are my witnesses says Jehovah"
by NikL in"you are my witnesses says jehovah".. this is going to show you how poor my knowledge of the bible has been.. i thought there was a scripture that says the quoted phrase (at least in nwt).
i could swear that i heard it for years quoted in talks.. i went to find it this morning and found nothing of the sort.
am i an anomaly or do any of you remember this as well?.
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no God (capital G)
god (small g) several referred to as that Psalm 82:6
Which ignores the fact that there are no capital letters in Hebrew. Have they ever addressed that?
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If you had the opportunity to create religious doctrine from scratch,what rule would your church or nation have?
by Chook inwould you teach a heaven , hell, jesus , paradise.
what rule structure for discipline ect ,ect,.
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Wish me all the best
by LevelThePlayingField inso i called in to my local walgreens pharmacy to get my blood pressure medicine refilled.
i go to the pharmacy to pick it up and they tell me that the doctor has denied filling it saying to them, "prescription refill not appropriate".
i asked them what that means and they say you'll have to contact your doctor on that, sorry.
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JeffT
I've said this before, but this is a good place to say it again: I'm an alcoholic. I haven't had a drink since August 29, 2005. Best 11 years of my life. I now work in a 28 day recovery center. I may be able to help find counselors/programs etc wherever you live. PM me if you want. Alcoholism is a disease, not a moral failure. It is quite capable of killing you, which is why your doctor wants you to come in and get your tests done. It is probable that if you go there and tell him the truth, you won't say anything he doesn't already know. I went in for a physical after I got sober, one of the docs first questions was "how much did you really drink?" When I told him he said "I knew you were lying to me."
Get some help and good luck to you.
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Does the Watchtower Bible Society own stocks. Nad are those stock related to military business?
by CitizenofEarth inhello.. i am a young 18 year old danish guy, who is a baptized jw.
since one year ago i have been maturing gradually and asking questions about many things, not only about jw stuff(which has caused some problems.
but nothing i couldnt handle with a bit of social skill).
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JeffT
Put simply, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He says the form he is looking at is the official tax return of the WTBS, and shows its investments. It isn't and it doesn't. This is a tax return for a charitable trust, which is a separate entity created with somebody else's money. In this case it's the Henrietta Riley trust. The money invested is hers. Under US tax law, the beneficiary of such a trust has NO say in the management of the trust. It is managed by a trust company and regulated by the legal instructions of the person who established the trust, in this case Ms. Riley.
There are large issues for which the Watchtower needs to be held accountable. This isn't one of them, and harping on it obscures the real issues and gives JW's that choose not to see facts a good excuse not to look at real information about real problems.
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Does the Watchtower Bible Society own stocks. Nad are those stock related to military business?
by CitizenofEarth inhello.. i am a young 18 year old danish guy, who is a baptized jw.
since one year ago i have been maturing gradually and asking questions about many things, not only about jw stuff(which has caused some problems.
but nothing i couldnt handle with a bit of social skill).
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JeffT
Do you have links? I can't find anything.
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Does the Watchtower Bible Society own stocks. Nad are those stock related to military business?
by CitizenofEarth inhello.. i am a young 18 year old danish guy, who is a baptized jw.
since one year ago i have been maturing gradually and asking questions about many things, not only about jw stuff(which has caused some problems.
but nothing i couldnt handle with a bit of social skill).
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JeffT
Reminder: I'm an accountant.
I did some research on this a few months ago. This Thread contains my conclusions.
@Startrekangel No the WTBS does not own the O'Rielly trust. That trust is a separate entitiy that belongs to Ms O'Reilly's estate. It is managed for the benefit of the WTBS, but they don't have any say in how its run. These things are regulated by US law, which doesn't care what the Watchtower says in its magazines.
On both of these issue I don't think there is anything here for the XJW community. There are much bigger fish to fry: pedophiles, the theft (in my opinion) of local funds and kingdom hall ownership, misappropriation (probably) of donations, and who knows what went on in the construction of Warwick.
Citizenofearth: congratulations on doing your research. I expect you'll find you can't go back.