Tinfoil hat time. If nobody knows the elder asked you to do that you could get called on the carpet yourself for associating with a DF'd person. If he denies asking you to do this, BAM you're disfellowshipped. I've seen elders pull this kind of stuff, and if you're PIMO they might be looking for a stick to beat you with.
Posts by JeffT
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40Unhappy being asked to give a Disfellowshipped Sister a ride to and from Meetings
by Isambard Crater ini'm pimo, very much against disfellowshipping, and going to a meeting leaves me feeling confused and angry at the best of times.
except an elder asked me on thursday night if i can start giving a ride to a disfellowshipped woman because she lives near me and nobody else from the hall lives in my village.
it seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.. i thought all normal publishers weren't to have any contact with disfellowshipped people?
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Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett
by freddo inso this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.
oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.
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JeffT
Yes, I'm stumbled by beards! I refuse to join a religion that would make me shave mine.
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Has Politics Changed How You View Your Entertainment?
by minimus inwhen i watch a tv show or movie or even a ball game, i don’t want to be deluged with matters involving politics.
entertainers and sports heros should stick to doing what people pay them for.
entertain us and just do your job!.
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JeffT
Sometimes politics in entertainment can be...entertaining. Like listening to some actress who is wearing a pile of bling that cost more than my car (or possibly my house) going on about how the elite 1% are taking over the country. You want to see 1% go look in the mirror.
Or listening to some twit, who a few years ago was giving a standing ovation to a pedophile, going on about sexual harassment.
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Who deserves the title of king of apostasy ?
by Chook ini think this would be a noble endeavour..
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JeffT
What Morpheus and Recovering said. If I wanted a new boss (same as the old boss) I would not have left the religion to begin with.
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Hunt begins for legion of ‘missing’ children being educated at home
by rebel8 ina person who used to post here is quoted in this article.. i hate to be a biotch, but since this has happened multiple times here, let me just say this: please do not be an asswipe and "out" her here because it would connect her real name to her username on this forum, and all the highly personal stuff that goes with that.
disclosing that is her decision, not yours.. ok, now that we have that out of the way, here's the article.
it's pretty great to have the political and religious radicalism connected to dubbery in this way.
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JeffT
There are right and wrong ways to home school. We have our teenage granddaughter in a home school support system that is a vast improvement over the local public schools. The program is modeled on some very progressive systems in places like Finland. They are grouped by ability rather than age and very strongly encouraged to take responsibility for their own learning. In the time we've been involved with the school (six or seven years I think) all but one of the graduates has been accepted at every college they applied to. That one student had to settle for her second choice.
There are some good programs out there, don't tar all of them with the same brush.
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Is the USA too big?
by Diogenesister infred deftone on another thread about the tragic events at m. stoneman douglas school:.
the us constitution wasn't written for 50 states either.
the country has gotten too big and i think the solution is fragmentation.
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JeffT
If the Feds stuck to governing the issues that the Constitution gives to the Fed Govt and left everything else to the States, there would more local control over 90% of the divisive issues.
This. The constitution very clearly splits responsibility and authority between the states and the Federal government. The federal government is authorized to regulate relationships with other governments and between the states. Everything else is left to the states. We need to stick to that.
Just before the start of the Constitutional convention George Washington asked James Madison if he was proposing a Federal Government or a National Government. Madison's reply was "Federal." (I'm trying to find my source for this, it's somewhere in my home library I will post it when I find it, in the meantime look at Federalist papers 39 & 46). The distinction is crucial. Under a federal system the constituent generally have authority over their own affairs.
Bottom line, the American people need to stop expecting Washington DC to do everything and let the states handle those things that are within their area of responsibility.
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Is it a Gun Issue or a Mental Illness Issue or Both?
by minimus inwe have had another shooting.
many are blaming trump and the republicans and the nra.. is it because of guns that there are so many massacres or could it be that these killers are mental?.
do you think guns should be removed from our society so that these atrocities never occur again?
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JeffT
Simon, some of the first gun control laws passed in this country banned African-Americans from owning one. That is a bit of history nobody wants to talk about, its hard to enslave people who have guns.
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Is it a Gun Issue or a Mental Illness Issue or Both?
by minimus inwe have had another shooting.
many are blaming trump and the republicans and the nra.. is it because of guns that there are so many massacres or could it be that these killers are mental?.
do you think guns should be removed from our society so that these atrocities never occur again?
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JeffT
How do you guys feel about the fact the NRA lobbyists virtually buys off your politicians in contribution funds - with which they get elected.
It's not just the NRA. Our politicians are all bought by somebody.
Flipper: Those kids were shot by the National Guard, you know the people I'm not supposed to need a gun to protect myself from.
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What Do You Think of The News Media?
by minimus ini used to pretty much believe anything they would report.
now, though, i find myself questioning “journalists “, with the realization that much of what is said may be inaccurate or slanted..
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JeffT
If you want slanted news with a right wing agenda watch Fox. If you want slanted news with a left wing agenda, just about anything else will do. There are no journalists anymore, it's all propaganda.
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Internet Search Engines And Some Of The First Things I Typed
by Brokeback Watchtower init was back in mid nineties 93,94 or 95 before it became what it is today.
anyway they had a bunch of search engines and the first thing i typed in it was jehovah witness, then jesus christ, next came lsd, magic mushrooms, nude pictures.
i think in that relative order.. i remember reading a different story about jws in germany during the nazi era, not anything like the 74 yearbook's depiction.
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JeffT
Call me a curmudgeonly old git if you like but it does seem like so many folk want to be 'spoon fed' their apostasy these days.
I'm liable to call you a lot worse than that. When my wife and I left in 1988, would had to do all our research at the public library. Talk about the opposite of spoon fed. We had to read entire books to get the information we needed. And that was after walking barefoot through the snow to get there. It was up hill both ways.
How's that for being an old curmudgeon? Now get off my lawn.