Posts by JeffT

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Has Anyone Ever Outed You For Being “Apostate”?

by minimus in

jw
friends

either here on this site or by a congregation member?

?.

JeffT

Sort of.

In the spring of 1988 (long before the internet) I started reading Crisis of Conscience, hiding the book under my side of the bed, with some stuff I knew my wife wouldn't move on top of it. One Sunday morning my after deciding "I didn't feel well" and staying home from meeting. My wife decided the kids were coming down with something and didn't go either. She was doing a lot of cleaning, and I'm drinking coffee and reading the paper when she comes down the hall with CoC in her hand and a funny look on her face. Just as I'm thinking that this is where it all hits the fan, she grins and says "this is MY copy."

She'd found mine, and assumed I'd located hers and she was going to be on the receving end of the argument. Then she found her copy where she stashed it on her side of the bed. We didn't know it until that moment, but we were both Apostates!

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Who were the Picts?

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, i've been reading a bit about the picts recently.. i'm not sure there's a consensus on exactly who they were or what type of language they spoke.. even their name - picts - has more than one explanation of where it came from.

i've read some scholars believe it comes from latin pictus (painted), referring to their supposed habit of painting themselves and/or tattooing themselves.

other scholars believe that the name pict comes from another source.

JeffT

I don't know who they were, but they grooved in caves with small furry animals.

Pict in a cave

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Jehovah's Witnesses Getting Roasted In Comedy Shows

by pale.emperor in

a selection of my favorite scenes from comedy shows/movies where they poke fun at jehovah's witnesses.

in the old days whenever they'd mention jws my mum would change channel in outrage.. this one's my favorite!

skip to 1:19 - .

JeffT

My favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgjGlCyxdb0

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2nd Update/Scary Experience

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

glad to say just got the news that the man who was arrested on suspicion about the dead bodies has been convicted of those two murders.

his accomplice is on the run, search going on for him.

there are talks about raising more awareness in the country park area now.. this news helps us to breath a little easy now.. thank you all for your support.. peace..

JeffT

I'm with John. Did you mean charged?

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Joke Sharing Thread

by Vanderhoven7 in

got a good joke or two?

why not share them.

here is a fun one.. retirement can be fun.

JeffT

Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Donald Trump walk into a bar. The bar tender looks at them and says "Is this a joke?"

***

A farmer is sitting on his front porch relaxing when two men carrying big buckets walk past the house toward his property. He asks them where they're going and they say "we saw some milk thistle back this way and thought we'd go get some milk."

The farmer (wanting to see what will happen) says "That's stupid but go ahead." Later they walk back the other way, the buckets are full of milk.

The next day they walk by again, he asks if they're after more milk. They say "no, we saw some butter cups when we were getting the milk, so now we're getting butter." Again he laughs and lets them go on. Sure enough, later they come back carrying buckets of butter.

The third day, they come by again, but don't have the buckets. When asked what they're doing one of them says "Yesterday when we were getting the butter we saw some pussy willows...."

"Wait a minute," the farmer says "I'm coming with you."

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All Watchtower Brooklyn sales in 37 NYC doc pages + spreadsheet

by Corney in

i have compiled 32 real property transfer reports (“reports”) and 5 recording and endorsement cover pages (“cover pages”) that are ny city public records and available online on a836-acris.nyc.gov site.

37 pages, 38 properties, $2.2bn, one society... enjoy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ryaj_4ihgs1uoyeptkbzdbmw9rd12dmf/view?usp=sharing.

see also spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1acdsqfusm5mi2zatfn87ksxmvrdzh0wfxg9nlomdszw/edit?usp=sharing.

JeffT

Orphan Crow, what kind of story are you expecting? That's prime NYC real estate, lots of people would have wanted it. Buildings get bought and sold all the time. For the XJW community the money take is a big deal, I can't think of any reason to care who bought it.

Gorbatchov, at this point there's no point in putting the money offshore, everybody knows they have it. If they have any brains at all its in the stock and bond market, or long temr money market funds.

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All Watchtower Brooklyn sales in 37 NYC doc pages + spreadsheet

by Corney in

i have compiled 32 real property transfer reports (“reports”) and 5 recording and endorsement cover pages (“cover pages”) that are ny city public records and available online on a836-acris.nyc.gov site.

37 pages, 38 properties, $2.2bn, one society... enjoy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ryaj_4ihgs1uoyeptkbzdbmw9rd12dmf/view?usp=sharing.

see also spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1acdsqfusm5mi2zatfn87ksxmvrdzh0wfxg9nlomdszw/edit?usp=sharing.

JeffT

Setting up an LLC for each property is a common tactic among real estate investors. I've worked for several companies that did exactly that. NYC (and most other big cities) attract lots of foreign money. I'd be surprised if there are any big stories in the buyers, for them it's just a another transaction.

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2018-Annual Service Report!

by Atlantis in

if this has already been posted just disregard.. 2018 annual service report one in english and one in spanish.

other news included.

zipped folder.

JeffT

My accounting brain always wants to look up a key stat. This year it took 7,363 hours of field service to produce one baptism. That's three and half years of full time work to make one baptized publisher.

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Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a Cult?

by Tahoe in

jw
friends

i realize this is an older posting on jw.org, but i’d come across it again after reading holden’s thread.

quoted below, so no need to visit the website.. _______________________________________________________.

no, jehovah’s witnesses are not a cult.

JeffT

"Cult" is verbal shorthand for "A religion different from mine." It's just a word, this question has come up a million times here and elsewhere, and it will come up a million more. The response will tell you more about the person answering than it will the religion.

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It would be nice if this forum went back to the basics

by nowwhat? in

not to offend or impose my opinion.

but simply i would like to see just news and insights from the local congregation to the top organization level of: downsizing, closings, c.s.a.

personal experiences,unscriptural doctrines of the org.and direct commentary of the above.

JeffT

I left the Witnesses before the internet existed. Even though both my wife an myself were converts, and those had experience outside JW land; returning to Earth was not an easy journey. I am sure it is much more difficult for born-ins. I would think that reasonable and appropriate open discussions of such matters as politics and entertainment are a great to help to those that have not ever been able to do so before. Topics like that might really help some in the exit from the Watchtower, and are therefore proper for this board.

If it doesn't interest you, don't read it. There isn't a test at the end to see if you read it all.