https://canopyforum.org/2021/04/19/the-right-to-shun-ghents-misguided-jehovahs-witness-decision/.
in march, the criminal court of ghent, belgium fined the congregation of jehovah’s witnesses (jw) for “inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members.” the case centered on the jw practice of “disfellowshipping.” while the court’s sensitivity to the individual impact of shunning is laudable, its decision regrettably assaults the freedoms of religion and association.. first, some background on jw beliefs and disfellowshipping.
jw was founded in the united states over a century ago and is headquartered in new york state.
you just can’t say that other people are evil.
I can't say that Nazis are evil? The KKK? The people that flew airplanes into the world trade center? The people on this board can't call the GB evil for shunning us? We make judgements about people all the time. Sometimes somebody makes a judgement we don't like. And we can stop talking to them when they do.
this experience was posted about a year ago.
it seems like a crackpot co was giving his prediction of what "might possibly happen in the future" .
now it seems like he wasn't such a crackpot after all.. quote.
I remember a talk/demonstration at a circuit assembly circa 1975. Brothers are supposedly in jail for preaching and one says he's heard the preaching work is stopped because the end is here. An elder shows him in the Bible where he's wrong, the preaching will go on right up to the end.
So they are contradicting what they said then. But what else is new?
who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.
oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.
g..
minimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.
joined 19 years ago.
started 4,139 topics.
I must have joined about the same time he did. I will miss his questions.
if you tell a jw that he or she is in a cult and they asked you why do you say that?
how would you respond?.
Telling somebody they're in a cult is like telling some one they're a racist. It may be true, and you may have truck load of evidence, but all you're doing is starting a fight.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democrats-seattle-homeless-resident-homicide-attempted-rape-jason-rantz.
I live in a suburb of Seattle. I can't say I have personally seen any of this because I haven't been in Seattle itself for months. There are some parts of the city I won't go into. Even here in the 'burbs we're seeing more and more homeless people wondering around. There is an abundance of petty crime. I had no idea there was such a bull market for catalytic converters. Not a week goes by without reports of a bunch of stolen converters.
does anyone know of examples where the watchtower used symbolic interpretation to twist the plain meaning of scripture?the only one that comes to my mind right now is in rev.
"then i heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of israel".. .
here, the wt would have us believe that the number of those sealed are literally 144k; but supposedly "israel" symbolically represents anointed jw's.
Proverbs 4:18
The Watchtower teaches that this means the Bible says that old incorrect teachings can just be changed because "the light got brighter."
Taken in context:
"The path of the righteous is like the morning sun,
shining ever brighter till the full light of day.
19 But the way of the wicked is like deep darkness;
they do not know what makes them stumble."
It is clear this is talking about the individual gaining wisdom and maturity as he grows in his faith. In my opinion one of their most ill-begotten intrepretations as they use to excuse outright error in their past teachings - nevermind that the new teachings will in due time become old teachings.
the watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
I picked up this recycled joke a long time ago. I think it applies to this article:
Q) What's the difference between Jehovah and the governing body?
A) Jehovah knows he's not the Governing Body.
kim and mikey made a youtube yesterday claiming that a business called watchtower property co. was connected to the watchtower.
they used a recording done by youtuber smurf girl of a call she made to a julie at the company.
i believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (no) "we're connected to the jehovahs witnesses directly.
Kim and Mikey
You have once again managed to evade the real issues here. You can't, or won't, examine what's been brought up on this thread. The horse is dead, I'll stop beating it.
However I will give you one thing: you're right I don't get it. You don't fight propaganda with more propaganda, you fight propaganda with Truth. You don't fight anger with more anger, you fight anger with kindness.
It must be hard going through life with all that anger.
kim and mikey made a youtube yesterday claiming that a business called watchtower property co. was connected to the watchtower.
they used a recording done by youtuber smurf girl of a call she made to a julie at the company.
i believe the call was doctored as it has her saying that (no) "we're connected to the jehovahs witnesses directly.
What concerns me most here is the possible damage to an innocent party - Watchtower Property and its employees, notably Julie Foyle. If she has no connection to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society the insinuation that she does, and is engaged in something nefarious could destroy her reputation.
One of my previous employers was a New York based real estate management and leasing firm. I can tell you, the New York market is a cutthroat place to do business. Some less than scrupulous players in that market will use anything to get the jump on a rival. A story like this, could wreck someone's livelihood.
Some folks on this thread seem to be so focused on bringing down the WTBS they are oblivious to the collateral damage they might be doing.
Edited to correct: Julie is in Philadelphia, not New York. I imagine that its also a tough place to work, what I said above is just as true here in Seattle. No matter where they are, real estate brokers are laser focused on their deals (and commissions).
