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  I feel slightly demonized after watching this

  by rebel8 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/officialanttix/videos/1344960652199711/.

  “the essence, the soul, of disco was shown to be free,“liberated” sexual expression….satan is manipulating this world for his own purposes, shouldn’t we expect that he would also use the world’s entertainment in his efforts to turn people from true worship?” awake 1979 dec 22 p.20.

  to cure me of the demons i just caught, maybe i should say 5 hail marys look at jw dot org 3x and put a napkin on my head the next 5 times my husband is in the room.

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  JeffT

  I won't go so far as to say it's Satanic, but I do think Disco was some of the crappiest music ever invented.
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  Two years ago I posted an article on my blog about the Watchtower's real estate holdings (http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/2014/09/analysis-of-watchtower-real-estate.html). Obviously they would want to get their hands on the money some how. I suspected that they were running return on investment calculations on every property (or intended to at some point). They would then sell off any hall that didn't meet their target.

  If the target rate is 4%, a reasonable estimate in this economy, they would expect a hall worth half a million to send $20,000 a year from the congregations using it. If they don't get that much, they can sell the hall, invest the money and come out ahead. So this meeting raises another question. Are they telling the elders the target return, so they can shake down the flock, or are they just selling off the properties?

  I can see them pursuing the first tactic, at least for a while. The elders will go back and give talks about how they need to cough up "X" more dollars or the Society will be forced to sell the Hall and everybody will have to drive across town to go to meeting. If that doesn't produce more money they can consolidate halls, probably figuring that anybody that bails out wasn't contributing that much to begin with.

  This will be a very interesting story to watch.
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  What do you think would have happened to you if...

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?

  what do you think would have happened to you?

  no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.

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  JeffT

  My wife and I stopped going to all meetings in 1988, and DA'd in 1989. We spent all our free time doing research in bookstores and libraries. In late 1988 we met up with a support group of XJW's that met once a month in church about half an hour away from our house. It took some time, but we built new lives and new friends. Most of her family and all of mine were non-JW's so we had somewhere to go for company.
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  Novella is done

  by JeffT in

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  the complete text of my novella "armageddon's slaves" is now posted on my blog.

  i created my own religion for this, as i want it to be about more than one religion.

  i'm sure you'll find a lot that feels familiar.

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  JeffT

  The complete text of my novella "Armageddon's Slaves" is now posted on my blog. I created my own religion for this, as I want it to be about more than one religion. I'm sure you'll find a lot that feels familiar.

  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/
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  Being nice to LGBTQ people is an affront to god?

  by Viviane in

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  2. current

  this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".

  seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.

  http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.

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  JeffT

  He'd rather be fired than watch a required video? Seems to me the solution to his problem is obvious.
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  Mouthy has Passed Away

  by Simon in

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  update on mouthy (grace gough)this is graces granddaughter.

  i wanted to send an update that today my beautiful grandmother passed away - surrounded by friends and family.

  - may 22 1927 - sept 2nd 2016. mouthys_granddaughter.

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  JeffT

  A remarkable woman. She certainly left her mark on the world. She will be missed.

  My condolences to the family.
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  This book woke me up. Thank goodness for people that care more about people trying to escape this cult rather than some copyright infringement of peoole that are no longer alive.

  See my comments about means justifying ends. As noted above, the copyright belongs to a living person. What other illegal/immoral actions to you sanction to attack the WTBS? At what point do you become that which you are trying to fight?

  
  

  If the current copyright holder can't get it done she should give it to someone who can. That's what I would do. I belive many here would do the same. This is beyond ridiculous at this point.

  How many books have your published? Do you have any idea what it takes to update a text, verify all the quotes, make sure all the references are correct, and then put it all into a current publication format? Since you seem to think its all so easy, maybe you should volunteer to quit your job and go do it.
  
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  I'm going to seek copyright permission first then I'll activate links once more.

  Thank you, this is the right way to go about this. If the current copyright holder is having trouble getting the book republished perhaps she will authorize some alternate method of getting it to the public.

  I understand that many people think that this is an important book that needs to be available to the public, I do too. But we need to be very careful when we start down the road of "the ends justify the means." Violating copyright is taking some one's personal property, plain and simple.

  Perhaps we can work a deal with the copyright holder (I've forgotten her name) to get copies into public libraries, at least.

  
  
  
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  Download Raymond Franz PDF Books Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.

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  happy reading!.

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  JeffT

  Great, more copyright violations. I realize these are great books, and lots of people want them, but as a free lance writer I'm offended that people care so little about ownership.
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  What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

  first, i found out.

  i found out.

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  JeffT

  "Tommy" - The Who. The entire album is about breaking free of cult-think.