None. Nationalism creates an "us" and "them"
Nonsense. "Us" and "them" preceded nationalism by several thousand years. Before we had nations, we had city-states, before that we had tribes. Medieval Europe wasn't all that great a place to live.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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I figured out what bothers me the most about this: it plays right into the Watchtower's narrative about "apostates" We're all greedy and out to attract followers to ourselves so we can take their money. We don't need to give them ammunition to use against us.
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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!
by darkspilver in2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
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Interesting. 284,000 baptized and average publishers only goes up by 110,000. What happened to everybody else? And it only took 7000 publisher hours per baptism. That's the equivalent of 3.5 people working full time jobs to get one person, and neither of those sets of numbers takes into account born ins.
What a waste of time.
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143rd Gilead Graduates cRiNGeWoRThY Song
by pale.emperor inquite possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've seen them do yet.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tk88rstv6o.
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I only got through the first verse.
I didn't get that far.
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Do you (or did you) have much of a social life as a Jehovahs Witness.
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question out of interest, because as a jehovahs witness for some 26 years, i have always felt that there is an 'all work, no play' culture within the organisation.
the organisation doesn't promote social gatherings.
i could count on one hand each year how many get togethers we have had.
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The first congregation I was in (1973-1982) was VERY active socially. We had dinners with other people probably at least twice a month. Between our congregation and two or three others in the same circuit there was a sizable group of young singles (all in our twenties) that hung together. We never got in trouble for it. Congregation picnics were a regular feature in the summer. I think the social life was one of the things that attracted me to the religion.
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What Do You Think A CIA Or NSA Security File On The Watchtower And Tract Society And It's Governing Body Would Say?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini'm sure that a top secret security clearance not very high up the chain of command would show a ton of information, .
i mean everything that happens on the internet and on computers i'm sure is assessable to the us intelligence community, why would the government not pass up an opportunity to spy on it's population and run all internet data through homeland security to protect it's interest both home and abroad, realistically thinking that is.. so with this in mind what would a highly classified report look like?
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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children
by cha ching inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.
interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..
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This is just wrong. I do not believe the government, any government, should have the power to take some one's children just because it doesn't like how they think, or what they believe.
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Charles Manson Is Dead
by Bangalore inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.html.
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I was always taught to say only good things about the dead. OK, he's dead. Good.
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How much in total do you think the W.T.S has payed out in child abuse cases??
by karter inthey have settled a lot out of court with gagging orders both ways so we will never know how much was payed out there.but some have been made public.
any ideas how much in total?.
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I wondered several months ago when Steve Lett , governing body, said on their jwbroadcasting, that more money is going out than coming in.
I don't believe that any more than I believe anything else they say. Why should I?
Along with reducing the total amount to be paid, the settlements almost certainly include structured payouts, which means they don't have as much to payout up front. All told, I imagine its not as much as you would think.
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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!
by Crazyguy inspoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.
several people speak out.
if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.
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JeffT
I've reached a point where I really dislike this king of thing. I can't see much difference between JW's running around trying to make more JW's, and XJW's running around trying to make more XJW's. Just do what you want and let others do what they want.