Posts by JeffT

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Lack of zeal

by road to nowhere in

i hear rumbling about the rank and file not having the same zeal they had when new.. lets see: door to door at the time least likely to find someone.

waste of a whole morning.

isolated.

JeffT

It's hard to be zealous over the religious equivalent of digging holes and filling them up again.

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Wausau Wisconsin Bans Throwing Of Any SNOWBALL!

by minimus in

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friends

you can’t throw a snowball at a person as kids often do.

you can’t throw it in a park, at a building, anywhere.

comments please.

In the fall of 1969 I was involved in a massive snowball fight at Washington State University, fought between fraternity members and non-fraternity members. Several hundred people were involved, five went to the hospital (I believe all recovered OK) and two or three thousand dollars worth of windows were broken.

I'm not sure of the date, probably in 1940 it snowed on the University of Texas, and of course a snowball fight broke out. A young woman threw a snowball at a guy that had attracted her attention. Unfortunately she missed him and hit the guy next to him. That man fired back and one thing led to another, they married two years later. I owe my existence to my mother's inability to throw a snowball and hit her intended target.

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Make Shunning A Hate Crime

by Lost in the fog in

the humanist organisation in the uk wants to protect non-religious people who leave their church/religion from being punished for doing so.

they want the religious hate crime legislation in the uk to be extended to people who are not religious.

i hope they will succeed.

JeffT

Consider this: if the law makes it illegal for them to shun you, it also makes it illegal for you to shun them. If your crazy JW relatives crash your birthday party to tell you Jehovah is going to kill you, throwing them out of your house might be a criminal act.

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Unpopular Opinion on Convention Protests

by Jehalapeno in

i think it's really sad that people that wasted countless hours preaching for a cult are deciding to waste more hours on that same cult after leaving it.. get a hobby.

enjoy life.. "the best revenge is a life well-lived.

" - some person said this..

JeffT

For years, at the conventions in the Seattle area, there was a guy with a large banner that said "call 244-FREE" for information about the watchtower. He was never mean, he just there with his banner. At the last convention we went to, my wife jotted down the number, but later forgot about it. A few months passed and one night, as were discussing our situation, she remembered it.

We called and I found myself talking to a minister who ran a support group for ejw's. This was in 1988, long before the internet. That man (Ralph Parsons) and his group were instrumental in our exit. Make of that what you will. I was part of the group of protestors for a few years, then moved on to other things.

42

Elon Musk, And The CyberTruck That Homer Built

by Simon in

i think tesla and musk have officially jumped the shark.. did you see the "cybertruck" they released?

it's like the car that homer built!.

it has to be the ugliest vehicle ever built.

JeffT

I'm not skeptical. All you need is cord that reaches from where you are to where you're going.

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Elon Musk, And The CyberTruck That Homer Built

by Simon in

i think tesla and musk have officially jumped the shark.. did you see the "cybertruck" they released?

it's like the car that homer built!.

it has to be the ugliest vehicle ever built.

JeffT

That's not a truck. It's a suped up mess designed to be sold to yuppies that want to talk about their "truck" but wouldn't know how to drive a real truck if you gave it to them. I see them all over the place around where I live. They will really like to virtue signal that they're driving an electric "truck" but they are entirely ignorant of where the batteries come from, what it takes to make one, or where the electricity for it is generated.

Simon, I talk to some aviation people on another board. Make sure your electric plane is a hybrid. That way, when you actually need to take something somewhere in it, you can take the battery out and replace it with a gas tank. The battery will just about get you from Fort Worth to Dallas.

37

What Do You Think About Banning Plastic Bags?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we need to save the planet so we have to stop using plastic bags!

in massachusetts, the new law will be going into effect soon.

if you go food shopping, you only cat get paper bags.. what is your opinion of the state banning plastic bags?

JeffT

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First On-Screen Crush?

by Simon in

many years ago, we lived in a world where the one tv in your house might be black and white, perhaps color if you were lucky, but either way the screen was small and the arial on your house would struggle to deliver a decent signal but often fail in a fuzzy mess.

most of the movies you saw were old, there was no home video or rental - you got a chance to see something and then it was gone.

planning your viewing was important to make sure you didn't miss something so you'd carefully scan the tv guide to pick out your favourites ... good job there were only 2 or 3 channels to look through.. but you could still see quality if you went to the movie theatre and there you got to see glorious film on a giant screen (which is only now being equalled quality wise).

JeffT

Ursala Andress in Dr. No. I was twelve.

30

PROVE IT!

by minimus in

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friends

that’s my attitude toward anyone making an assertion.

i’m sick of people saying such and such is true simply because we are saying it.

i would think that those here would agree because we all have been jehovah’s witnesses.

JeffT

Very frequently when assertions are questioned I hear "Everybody knows 'X'"

Fine if everybody knows it, finding proof should not be hard.

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The internal conundrum of opposing ideologies with the Jehovah's Witnesses religion.

by Finkelstein in

one might look at the jws in two engaging parts, one part being the activity orchestrated by the top men who create the doctrines which get printed out into many pieces of literature the wts publishes, call it dogma if you will.. the other might be long extenuating rules of conduct of behavior the wts enforces and regulates to its following devoted members in an all out effort to make the organization the most righteous and clean among all other christian based organizations.. the doctrines created by the top leaders of the wts have put forth many doctrines which weren't particularly bible supported, one could even say they were apostate in their expressive originality.. pushing the theology that jesus has returned and has taken to his heavenly throne as of 1914 thereby proclaiming that mankind is living in the last days or "this generation" spoken about in the bible was propagated by the wts for over 100 years now, going as far back as the late 1800's.. there has been a major effort by the organization's leaders from the top down to watch for any behavior by the adjoined members that would ruin the over all righteous image of the organization.

personal appearance is closely watched and monitored, social behavioral activities on various matters are also closely monitored over the avowed members.. there is so much scrutiny going on over the members and critical judgments being imposed on a personal level to the members but what about the very doctrines to which these members are to uphold 100 % less they be punished for openly investigating and being critical of ?.

it seems the men at the top have the control over the doctrines they make and also the power to kick out and condemn anyone who honestly investigates these doctrines to their honesty and viability .

JeffT

When you think about it, ~~so much~~ all of the WT's troubles are self-inflicted.

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