jehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.
news.
you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.
I've said this before on this subject:
Keep in mind, a court decision like this cuts both ways. They can't keep you from associating with them, and you can't stop them from associating with you. You tell Grandma uberzealous JW she can't come over and preach at your children, she pulls this court case out and says the courts says you can't stop her. Now what do you do?
i just watched the oprah interview.
i know that many view them with little interest as just entitled wastes of space and i get that.. however, the description of how they were "trapped" and silenced and forced into perpetuating the system with little or no personal freedom rang bells for me.
they are effectively shunned, estranged and disparaged by their family and cut off from support.
245 years ago we (Americans) fought a war to get rid of these people. I wish we could get them to stay gone.
i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.
i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.
what subjects interest you ?
When I first came in here twenty years or so ago, I was interested in history of the org and prophetic statements. Now I'm more interested in the culture of JW's, how they think and act. I'm working on a pair of novels about a cult (of my own invention, which shows how easy it is to do). This site helps me remember what i was like.
i stopped going to kingdom hall meetings about nine years ago.
i was fading for the longest time, refused to go out in field service, dropped out of the ministry school talks, no longer answered at the watchtower study, arrived at the meetings the last second, and left as soon as possible.
i couldn't take attending the meetings any longer.
Sometime in the Spring of 1988.
so about a month in to biden's presidency and they are already bombing a country.. remind me how trump was going to bring about wwiii with north korea, iran, china and god knows who else?
did he?
no.. but straight back to business as usual for the military industrial complex and crickets from their media buddies..
Was the President aware this was going to happen? I read the Vice-President was livid as she was not informed. I wonder who is actually running the show?
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama
hi friends i`ve finally got an appointment to go to hospital tomorrow ,pre-admission for my hip replacement surgery.. so if you don`t hear from me ever again ,it means i`ve carked it .lol, should i even joke about that ?.
so its goodnight from me till who knows when ?.
Take care.
top ten signs you're a fundamentalist christian.
10 - you vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.. .
9 - you feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the biblical claim that we were created from dirt.. .
After I left the JW's a belonged to an evangelical (fundamentalist) church for a number of years. Those people do not think of JW's as fundamentalists. The fundamentals can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fundamentals
A few things quickly stand out, as doctrines at odds with the Watchtower. The Deity of Christ, The Personality of the Holy Spirit, Justification and Salvation through Grace alone. Regarding their understanding of the Bible, I've read some Christian writers (Walter Martin, Anthony Hoekama) who point out JW's don't recognize the final authority of the Bible. In Watchtowerland all Scriptural interpretation is filtered through the pages of the Society's literature.
other n t prayers:.
the lord's prayer.. .
the tax collector's prayer.. .
Unless its changed, JW's are opposed to "canned" prayers even if they're in the Bible. I think reciting the Lord's prayer at the start of meeting would get you yanked off the stage and hauled in front of a committee.
i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..
I have often thought about starting a series of posts on practical information for living a good life after the JWs. Maybe topics like: moving out of your parents' house, finding a job, finding an apartment, buying a house, renovating a house, opening a checking/savings account, planning for retirement, investments, etc. Depending on your age leaving the JWs any of those topics might possibly be appropriate.
Go for it. JW's don't learn anything about life in the real world, meaning there are lots of XJW's that might be struggling to learn how to handle those items you mention, and many more. I'll be happy to bore anybody that asks with my financial advice.
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
Why are they not even mentioning it as possibly a good idea to take? (esp. you are known to be deficient)
Because vitamin D is toxic if you take too much. The correct solution to this is get tested and see if you're deficient. If you aren't taking Vitamin D is a bad idea. I would be interested in seeing a study, if the percent of people with COVID and vitamin D deficiency is the same as the percent of everybody with vitamin D deficiency it doesn't mean anything.
