Posts by HappyGuy

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What's the logic behind 'Quick-build' KHs?

by african GB Member in

do they really have to build khs in 2 days?.

how safe are those khs?.

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HappyGuy

I have worked on both types. I helped build several halls the "slow build" way. This was grueling. You get off work then you go help build the KH. Saturdays, Sundays are taken up helping to build the KH. Budgets were also blown. It is difficult to plan what costs will be for a construction project that will take one to two years to complete.

I was very involved in the quick build program. I led two of the crews, carpentry and interior finish. (I am a master carpenter and a I was a big fan of the quick build approach because it took such a huge burden off the local brothers. I have been one of those local brothers shouldering that burden so I can speak from that point of view.

Every quick build I worked on was run in the most professional manner imagineable. All the key trades were led by master tradesmen. We had licensed engineers on site to do inspections. I don't know if all the quick build committees did it that way.

I don't agree that doing something fast means doing it poorly.

As far as safety goes every quick build I was involved in far exceeded the local building codes. I would say that these buildings were safe.

As for a fire being caused by a faulty electrical box, I guess such things have happened, in all the years I was involved in the quick build program I never heard of a case of any kind where bad workmanship led to a serious problem.

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Anyone leave the org without the help of the net?

by Miss Chievous in

just wondering if anyone here left the org without ever looking at anything on the net and if so how did it happen for you?.

miss c.

HappyGuy

I don't use the internet for serious information gathering. I might use it to get pointed in the right direction but I do my real research in libraries. I left the JW cult in the early 90s and the Internet was not what it is today, it was around but only for the diehard geeks.

Too many people on the internet are of the mindset that if Google didn't find it it does not exist, or if it isn't in Wikipedia then it cannot possibly be true. I think it is dangerous to put too much faith in the internet.

I didn't really get any input from anyone else. I had a shipwreck of faith and did some serious study over a two year period, mostly in University libraries, trying to reestablish my faith. What I found out told me that the shipwreck was the result of a faith built on lies. That is why I left the JW cult.

I haven't been all that active on these ex JW boads, I was on one in 2002, I forget the man's name who ran that, I think a lot of people on here know about that old board. I didn't stay on there very long, there was an idiot on there called himself Dragon or something who calimed to be some sort of martial arts voodoo black magic master. The guy was a real piece of work. He was married and spent a great deal of time trying to seduce women on the site. He was a real scumbag. I called him out over his ridiculous behavior and it just turned into a constant hassle.

I found this board while researching something. I was fairly active for a couple fo months but only come once in a while now.

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In your own words ... what is the truth?

by sacolton in

in one sentence, can you define what the real "truth" is?

not the watchtower version (we all know what that is)..

HappyGuy

For a married man, truth is what his wife tells him it is.

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Is Jehovah a "Spirit"?

by cameo-d in

what exactly is a "spirit"?

is it invisible?

does it have form?

HappyGuy

I can't speak about the "god" of the New Testament, but the "god" of the Old Testament known as Jehovah is a demon from a more ancient mythology. Demons are not "fallen angels", they are extremely malevolent spirit beings, they have names and personalities, they cannot take material form but can appear to the weak minded as a kind of hologram making the weak minded believe that they saw something which did have a material form. Where these spirit beings came from is unknown other than to say that they are not former humans. They are old beyond reckoning.

People who do not actively go seeking demons through the practice of powerful black magic do not have to worry about being bothered by these demons.

The Isrealites were practitioners of a very ancient, very potent black magic which is how and why they were able to interact with the demon Jehovah. They did this to gain power over the surrounding nations but they paid a very heavy price for getting involved with this creature.

The warnings in the Old Testament against practicing black magic were directed at the Yahwehists (Jehovists) because this demon had wreaked so much havoc on the Israelites and the surrounding nations.

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Do You Believe The USA Will Have Another 9/11???

by minimus in

jw
friends

we were very lucky not to have another airplane blow up this past christmas.. do you think we will see this country under a systematic attack in the near future?.

HappyGuy

Wow, so many totally deluded people on here.

Talking NEVER leads to peace, never has and never will. The only thing that ensures peace is making your enemy know that if they go to war they will be completely destroyed.

The Jihadists do not want peace, they want a global totalitarian Islamic state with all non believers in the grave. Talking to them will not change their mind about that. There is nothing to negotiate because there is nothing that they want from us. They want us dead. And anyone who does not support their vision of a global radical Islamic state. I'm not sure what you delusional people think you would be negotiating? The color of your body bag?

The only thing that the Jihadists respect is force. You want peace with them? Then make the consequences of their actions so horrific that NO ONE will dream of supporting them or giving them shelter.

Obama's behavior is going to ensure that we have another attack, an attack that will make 9/11 look like a paper cut on your finger. The global Jihadists are becoming emboldened by Obama's cowardice. If this nonsense continues we are guarnateed to be attacked again, but this time with the backing of a state like Iran.

And the Obama coward regime will say "OOOO, we need to talk to them and understand why they set off a nuclear bomb in the mall of America".

The only thing I want to understand about the terrorists is what kind of body bag their pieces will be put in after we blow them to smithereens.

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List of Prominent JW Urban Legends...

by Tuesday in

jw
friends

hey folks,.

i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.

that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.

HappyGuy

There is one about a pioneer sister in field service (alone of course) and she goes to a door where a serial killer (psychopath) is staying, he answers the door but just nods and takes the magazine. Later that day the serial killer rapes and murders a young woman who looks similar to the pioneer sister. The homocide detectives find out about the pioneer sister through interviews of the neighbors and contact the KH and find out who she is and interview her. She claims that the man was very peaceful but was looking at her like he was afraid of her.

The homocide detectives ask the serial killer why he did not harm the Jehovah's Witness lady who came to his door alone. He says "Alone? She was not alone, those two big thugs were with her, no way was I going to tangle with them".

I have heard variations on that story for many years from many different sources.

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My growing opinion about religion

by AK - Jeff in

jw
friends

when i walked away from jw's i thought that i would find other religions more comforting, less controlling.

what i found was more of the same.

religion acting like a 'prophet'.

HappyGuy

I am an anti-labelist, I do not want a label applied to me.

Seek spirituality instead of religion. They are very different and no person can enlighten you on your spiritual path, only you can do that. Now I have a 10 point step by step process for how you .... just kidding.

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Occult vs. Cult

by God_Delusion in

occult = "the term is also used as a label given to a number of magical organisations or orders, the teachings and practices taught by them, and to a large body of current and historical literature and spiritual philosophy related to this subject .

" - wikipedia.

cult = "scholars and non-academic researchers who use the term do so from explicitly critical perspectives which focus on the relationship between cult groups and the individual people who join them.

HappyGuy

If you want to have your eyes REALLY opened do a proper study of propaganda, the science of propaganda. Yes, it is a science. Read up on its techniques, the use of words and ideas, read examples of good propaganda. This material is pretty easy to find. Only stay off of wikipedia and get some good books on the subject.

Then take a random sampling of WTBTS publications including WT mags, Awake, Kingdom Minstry, various tuesday night study books, and the books meant just for the elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, etc.

Utilizing propaganda to such a degree that you control the though processes of millions of people is not an easy task, it is not a job for idiots or amateurs, it takes skill, planning, and dedication.

No, the GB are not idiots, they are part of an organization that is very skilled at the use of propaganda and brainwashing.

Don't take my word for it, learn something about the science of propaganda and see for yourself.

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CreativHoneys new Alias.. THE ELDERS CAME TO MY DOOR!!! NEED SOME SUPPORT.

by creativjamspam in

hi all, - firstly a new alias, so i can use the gravatar function...- ill be using both for a while till this one kicks in.. .

ok, so some of you know im dfd and my faded sister lives with me.. - today at about 1pm, the elder who dfd me turned up at my door.

i was in bed - ive had a cold for three days and a hacking cough.. james came up and told me, and i said im not well, but my sense of motherliness kicked in and i thought, its not for my eleven year old son to deal with this.

HappyGuy

I think you should call the elder and tell him that the "negative speech" about you that you heard from your family members is causing you emotional stress (and you know that the negative speech came from said elder) and that you are giving them formal warning that they are not to come to your home again, and if they do come to your home again you will view their presence there as trespass and will call the authorities.

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CULT? OH THEY ARE NOT A CULT! They don't tell us what to do, just kidding.

by Leprechaun in

jw
friends

i will under line, areas that prove they do not seek to control the rank and file, how could we be so silly to think they are a cult, seeking control of the rank & file.

the watchtower november 15, 2009. .

cherish our place-how?.

HappyGuy

Doesn't the word "cooperate" there really mean OBEY WITHOUT QUESTION?