I don't believe in God, but if I am wrong and there is one, then I don't believe JWs would be damned for their beliefs. I think any God worth his/her salt would damn people for their actions not their beliefs.
carpediem
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Damned For Their Beliefs?
by Cold Steel inobviously this is for people who believe in an afterlife.. are jehovah's witnesses damned because of their beliefs?
please elaborate.. .
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How do we identify the true Born Again Christyian's?
by wannabe innote his words on this: "most truly i say to you, unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of god.
look again, at what jesus said about being born again: "most truly i say to you, unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of god.
" unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of god.
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carpediem
Hi Wannabe
Any God worth his salt would not write a book for his human creation and write it in such a way that you need to be 'granted ' to understand it.
Here here Farkel, well said.
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They accepted my DA letter without a fight
by carpediem ingits!
didn't even fight to keep me lol!
told hubby i had disassociated before he went to the meeting and found out from the elders.
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carpediem
Gits! Didn't even fight to keep me lol! Told hubby I had disassociated before he went to the meeting and found out from the elders. I thought it was better as I didn't want to give them any grounds to criticise me. Hubby never really reacted to the news, but just said 'oh I see, well whatever you want'. He is just back from the meeting and the elders were comforting him . They accept it and are going to announce it on Wednesday. I was gearing myself up for a bit of drama, even looking forward to being dramatic, but nothing.
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If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?
by Crisis of Conscience inthis is my biggest dilema.
although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.
i love people!.
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carpediem
The only bad thing about leaving was leaving behind friends. That really upset me and still does. I disassociated a couple of days ago and text my friends to let them know. Only one replied to say she was really sorry and could she help in anyway. My best friend didn't even bother to reply, nor did the person who did the bible study with me in the first place. How sad is this religions grip.
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Did you ever do something for this religion that now makes you shudder ?
by man in black inback in the early 80's right after i was married the main driving point i kept hearing at the meetings was "do more,,, pioneer ".. well being the young impressionable jw couple that we were, .
my wife is a speech therapist, so working pt was no problem, but i ended up working construction, cleaning carpets, and shoveling snow at all hours with the brothers, and i worked like a d*** fool at all hours.. funny how there was so much support for me to work with the witnesses, but once the decision was made work could be very iffy at times.. and the main thing that just causes me to cringe now is how so many of the witnesses in charge of the congregation thought that we did not need insurance, my wife had a policy with her school district, but my son and i did not.
granted medical expenses were not as bad then, but just the idea of thinking that we did not need it that god would watch over us just embarasses me to no end now.
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carpediem
Yeah - preach. Now when I think about going to the doors of strangers when 99.9 percent of them would rather not talk to you, it makes me cringe. I also helped get two different people disfellowshipped - shame on me. I was a real goody two shoes
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God's biggest mistake
by bobld increated his son 1st,instead of wife/mother for adam/eve.antitypical father produced a/e than took off to galaxy eso513-13 and left the kids to fend for themselves.no guidance and unattended.if they had a mother..she would of provided care,protection,love,understanding watch over them,wisdom,insight.mother is full of forgiveness.his son was to baby sit,but could not be seen.. today when to have a mother and a father you can raise a child on the straight and narrow.even with satan and all of his demons.drugs,porn,immortality,money etc.yet a/e were in a perfect setting but no mother for guidance kids fell be the wayside.. b.
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carpediem
and what's even worse, rejecting his newly created childrens children from then until now. If he does exist he is pretty crappy at his job and needs sacking. No wonder he skulked off into the deep recesses of infinity, never to be seen again.
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
soldier77 - perfectly worded!!!
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
Cyberjesus - well they can keep me on their records if they like - I dont really care what they do bec I have deleted them from mine.
Joshnaz - it is liberating to actually do it. I had about two minutes of tears - for the friends who would no longer talk to me - and then I felt great. Because for the first time I can do exactly as I like without worrying about who is watching. Last year I had a secret birthday and Christmas celebration. I even went to a Carol concert to work, signing in BSL with a friend but kept it secret. This year, hell, I am gonna have a ball!!
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
thanks all. Good to let it all hang out on here.
Wingcommander - yes I work so have no worries there.
anyway, thanks all for your support - got to dash off to work and earn a crust but brb!
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Today I seized the day...and disassociated myself
by carpediem inand i feel good!
it was a long time coming.
i stopped going to meetings june 09. the reason i left it so long is because my husband is still in and for this reason i see witnesses from time to time.
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carpediem
lol snowbird. really I am a wimp at heart. it has taken a long time to get to this point.....
zeroday - yeah I get your point. If they want a hard copy they can have one - it doesnt change anything from my point of view. Today, 14th October was the day I freed myself. I feel a glass of celebration red coming on .......!