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  ISIS Kills American Soldier, Will Watchtower Speak Out Finally?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.tristatehomepage.com/story/d/story/isis-terror-group-kills-2nd-american-journalist/12500/0kjo7mxf0kalqvmlyykl-g.

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  No, the GB is too afraid of losing their heads.
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  The government should TAX the WT for the social services spent on JW's.

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since there is an abundant supply of literature where the gb tell members not to get education, not to plan for retirement, not to worry about their health, all vs doing more literature peddling, perhaps the government should stick a monthly bill to the wt for the social services, retirement, welfare, medicaid, etc, that is being spent on members because of their insisting that they don't take care of themselves and plan for the future.

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  how quickly would 'new light' come that each member should plan for retirement, should get good schooling, etc??

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  I agree w/ everything EXCEPT the walmart comment.

  Minimum wage being raised, or forcing walmart and other minimum wage companies to increase wages will HARM vs help the economy. Minimum wage is not supposed to be a wage that is liveable on your own. Wages are also a product of supply and demand. If you don't like the wage, go to school, learn something that pays better and get at it. If nobody worked at walmart because they paid to little, they would increase the wage.

  Also, people seem to not understand that increasing minimum wage does not mean that they will have the spending power of that wage as it stands today. If minimum wage is increased or companies forced to pay more, then it raises the prices everywhere. A person getting $8 an hour can buy a $3 or $4 burger. Force a wage increase to $12 an hour and then they can get a $5 or $6 burger. They are making more money but they can't buy anymore. So the poor remain exactly in the same spot, but those who get above minimum wage are the ones who get hurt.
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  The Real Reason For No More Bookstudies.

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was just thinking about my days at wtf and driving out for book study when it dawned on me.. bethelites are given a stipend for travel based on nyc public transportation.

  depending on how you pay let's just call it a $5.00 round trip.. if you drive your care you're also reimbursed for mileage at the standard irs rate.

  let's round that down to .50 per mile.. if four bethelites get in a car and drive an average of 30 miles to the (former) bookstudy the society is spending 4x$5.00 for the stipend plus and additional $30.00 for mileage.

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  steve2 - in the rest of the world they have diesel hybrids and excellent public transportation that allows one to get anywhere as quick or quicker by train(some as fast as 300mph), tram, subway, etc than by car. In the USA we are spinned the story, "No selling of diesel hybrids and other cars that get 60 to 100mpg because nobody would want them", and if you take a train anywhere, expect it to take 4X or longer than driving.

  I was in Switzerland, gas costs more, but all the vehicles got double/triple gas mileage, so it ended up costing the same or even less.
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  A question JW's cannot answer (also need help)

  by Matt_fs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  man, its been years since i posted on here.

  when i was in deep discussion with my very close jw friend, this forum helped me tremendously, so thank you all for your help and knowledge.. many years ago i went to my jw friends house with one sheet of paper with my notes and questions.

  i had him stumped and he said he would get back to me (which he never did).. anyways, many years have passed without even discussing anything and just the other day he brought it up and wanted to see what he couldn't answer.

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  The only thing I think you might be talking about then is in Revelation? About the first and the last, the alpha and omega? There are a few of those in revelation and I know the WT says one is Jesus and one is Jehovah or something to that effect.
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  Why Europe Will Let Ukraine Go

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20140831.aspx.

  if the us wants war, they can pay for it and fight it.

  world peace thru budgeting constraints would still be world peace.. .

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  It's not that Europe doesn't care, it's that Europe is very smart. Many parts of Europe enjoy a very comfortable way of life. No unemployment, great health, benefits, etc. They know that if they don't do anything, the war mongering industrial complex in USA, with it's 500billion a year+ income, that was throwing a hissy fit because it wasn't getting a raise this year, will be all to happy to donate american lives and tax money so that they can get profit off of this.
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  JW.org is a DIFFERENT religion from the WT and Kingdomhall

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public jw.org vs the material in the study articles?

  other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does not happen, yet in the kingdomhall and wt is does happen.

  look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ can anybody show one wt that says what is in the borg website?

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  hoser - good point and I have done that. The only reason I'm not dfed is because I presented all sorts of articles and information, (intended for bible studies and not for watchtower studies) and the elders had only 2 choices at that point. A. Admit and claim that the WT and GB are lying and being deceptive. B. That those 'other' articles are true and I am not doing anything wrong (then they don't have to admit the WT is lying, but can't take action on me).
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  JW.org is a DIFFERENT religion from the WT and Kingdomhall

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public jw.org vs the material in the study articles?

  other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does not happen, yet in the kingdomhall and wt is does happen.

  look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ can anybody show one wt that says what is in the borg website?

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  One thing that puzzles me is that previous lawsuits had been tossed out (shunning, practices, etc) because the courts said that the religion has a right to set it's own doctrine and laws/bylaws and if it follows it's own rules nothing can be done about it.

  Why have those lawsuits not been challenged showing the WT is breaking it's own laws/bylaws but showing the 'public' version of it's rules?

  The person can say they joined based upon the presented information, or a born in can say they read the articles about checking everything and not being shunned/family is family no matter what, etc, then the courts would see they have printed double versions of everything with opposite outcomes so they can pick and choose how they please.
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  A question JW's cannot answer (also need help)

  by Matt_fs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  man, its been years since i posted on here.

  when i was in deep discussion with my very close jw friend, this forum helped me tremendously, so thank you all for your help and knowledge.. many years ago i went to my jw friends house with one sheet of paper with my notes and questions.

  i had him stumped and he said he would get back to me (which he never did).. anyways, many years have passed without even discussing anything and just the other day he brought it up and wanted to see what he couldn't answer.

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  Click on your name in the upper right hand corner of the screen, then click on "topics posted on" or "topics started". I did that to your name and saw 8 years ago a topic on the trinity and other topics as well. My bet is that one of those is what you are looking for.
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  JW.org is a DIFFERENT religion from the WT and Kingdomhall

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public jw.org vs the material in the study articles?

  other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does not happen, yet in the kingdomhall and wt is does happen.

  look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ can anybody show one wt that says what is in the borg website?

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  Has anybody else noticed the huge 180 degree under the public JW.org vs the material in the study articles?

  Other than jw.org showing that shunning of family and those who left the religion does NOT happen, yet in the kingdomhall and WT is DOES happen.

  Look at jwborgs stance on quitting school and getting higher education.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/quit-school/ Can anybody show ONE WT that says what is in the borg website?

  " Similarly, if you quit school, you will likely find it more difficult to get a job. And if you do get one, it will probably be lower paying than one you might have obtained if you had completed your schooling." " A primary function of education is to prepare you to find a job that will help you support yourself and provide for any family you may eventually have. "

  I guess they are using the jwborg website to do a big BAIT AND SWITCH. On the website, "Don't worry, we don't practice shunning that is all lies. And no matter what, family is always family no matter what! Don't worry, we don't discourage higher education, that's a big lie, we actually ENCOURAGE a good college education, etc".

  Then once in the KH, "Don't even THINK of emailing your poor sick mother because she left the truth and must be treated as if dead!... You are thinking of getting a college education? Meet us in the back room after the meeting, we need to discuss your faith in the faithful slave and how close we are to the end. You shouldn't be wasting time getting schooling when the end is so close!"
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses in USA - prefer a bigger government providing more services and involved in regulating morality.

  by Sol Reform in

  1. social
  2. current

  jehovahs witnesses in usa - prefer a bigger government providing more services and involved in regulating morality .. interesting that jehovahs witnesses who don't vote, even got on this graph.. " what are the political positions of religions and churches in america?.

  this new graph maps the ideologies of 44 different religious groups using data comes from pews religious landscape survey.. this survey included 32,000 respondents.

  it asked very specific questions on religion that allow us to find out the precise denomination, church, or religion of each person.. .

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  Quakers/Amish are respectable in this sense. They live by what they preach. They don't contribute and they don't take, they take care of themselves.