I would say if there was a victim involved. A sex crime vs taking drugs on their own or breaking a law.
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What crime should elders report?
by kramer inso, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.
how about criminal fraud if they come across it.
assault on a congregant?.
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" you will never grow old..."
by mrquik in" you will never grow old..." a more grievous lie is hard to imagine.
i heard this one first in 1957. i was 6. my mother had just converted.
i heard it many times after that.
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As the GB have stated about "apostates" before that it was too bad modern laws prevented them from killing apostates. It really is too bad that these modern laws also prevent the execution of the GB as well, by their own words and reasoning they are damned according to Deut 18:20-22 (recall the CREATORS PROMISE they put in the front of all awake magazines, "The Creator’s promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away". Deut 18:20-22 for those lies and false words of their owns mouth and not the creators promise has this to say,,,,"However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name and word that I have not commanded him to speak.....that prophet MUST DIE. And incase you should ask in your heart: How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken? when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. WIth presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him".
So the GB wish they could execute all apostates to their false teachings, but according to Duet, the GB themselves should be put to death.
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Does the Governing Body practice what they preach and go door to door or stand behind the carts?
by Bob Loblaw ini would think with all their demands on the rank and file that they should all at least get there 10 hours in a month.
just curious.
anyone know?.
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They take first class flights around the world, always traveling, welcomed by people who take them out to nice restaurants or good cooked meals. They designate every piece of work they have to do. Doubt they really do any work.
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I bet there will be unexpected attendance increase for khs that are gym locations.
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Dallas Texas 5 Police Officers dead & 6 wounded ?
by smiddy inand it is still ongoing ?.
obviously sparked off by the 2 afro american citizens gunned down by police officers these past few days.?.
when is this sort of violence going to end ?.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/ Those are all police shootings and details. You can click on a race, armed/unarmed, etc, then click on the people icon for all the details on what happened.
So 38 unarmed blacks killed by police in 2015. Out of 1,200,000 officers, out of millions of interactions and calls. Of those 38 unarmed blacks, some of the circumstances include..."shot with a stun gun then punched officer in face", "grabbing the officers gun", etc. So under 38 in the ENTIRE USA! In just Chicago alone since July 1st there are more than 38 black on black.
But BLM insist whites and police targeting them and wiping them out.
Back to the disproportionate comments, if we take that reasoning that everything should be proportionate and that only racism would be why blacks have more arrests, or murder arrests, or deaths from police, as racism and not because of more crime by them, then MALE LIVES MATTER! Females are getting away with murder and cops are killing males. Males are way disproportionate to females for arrests, deaths, and all of that. Time to start marching and calling out this sexism for what it is!
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Dallas Texas 5 Police Officers dead & 6 wounded ?
by smiddy inand it is still ongoing ?.
obviously sparked off by the 2 afro american citizens gunned down by police officers these past few days.?.
when is this sort of violence going to end ?.
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Last year 32 unarmed whtes killed and 38 unarmedblacks. Washington post describes every detail of all police shootings if one wants to look it up.of those unarmed, many resisted, etc.
Over 1,200,000 police in USA. A fraction of the 38unarmedblack killed are questionable. That's why the sensationalized are usuallyvery questionable. Look up how many black on black killings in chicago alone just last week. Its a higher number.
So those who hav. Just commented on majority or 99% of police bad and target blacks.explain those numbers
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Dallas Texas 5 Police Officers dead & 6 wounded ?
by smiddy inand it is still ongoing ?.
obviously sparked off by the 2 afro american citizens gunned down by police officers these past few days.?.
when is this sort of violence going to end ?.
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You cant expect no push back from people who are disproportionally the target of ongoing and heavy handed law enforcement tactics just because they aren't white. -
It's comments like these that are the problem. Where is the proof they are disproportionally the target of ongoing and heavy handed law endorcement? All statistics and FACTS prove otherwise. More unarmed whites are killed by police than whites. Likely you may mention that blacks have a higher percentage than their percentage of race makeup for the country. All dealings with police ARE PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME COMMITTED. I"m tired of the PC crap trying to pretend that places like chicago, baltimore, and detroit do not exisit, that blacks commit equal crime as whites, etc. Comments like your's are equivalent to the brainwashing technique done at the watchtower study of repeatedly saying something then in your mind becomes a true fact bypassing logic and reason.
For the shooting of ALTON. IT WAS JUSTIFIED. I am also astounded how with video evidence that everybody can clearly see, they are blind to what was happening. Look at this video and freeze frame it around :16 and :17, go frame by frame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdGXhSQvTKc His left hand is secure but his right hand is free. He is fighting the whole time, and you see the officer grab his right hand but he gets it free. You also see his right shoulder shifting downwards (the exact motion that would happen if grabbing for lower right pocket). I can post his criminal record too, that's been reported, but then then these facts will quickly be ignored and the claim will be, "Well his criminal history didn't warrant a death sentence", no it didn't, he died because he was a man resisting arrest, having an illegal gun and reaching for it while he was being arrested. After he is shot once, he CONTINUES to fight and then being a big man wrestles the officer. His arrest record had a very similar case prior, he resisted and wrestled a cop and a semi automatic fell out of his pants.
It's a joke and damned if you do and damned if you don't with the police. This officer was just killed by a teen, when there was a scuffle and the teen pulled a gun from his waistband. https://www.odmp.org/officer/22881-deputy-sheriff-david-francis-michel-jr Look at the outrage with Alton when he was a grown man, resisting arrest, and reaching for a gun from his pocket. Can you imagine if this officer who was killed had instead killed the teen in that scuffle? "O such a sweet young boy was murdered by that officer, he never reached for no gun", etc. Like "Moore" who was recently killed. http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2016/06/the_michael_moore_police_shoot.html
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Does the book of Ezekiel hint that the God of the Jews is not who they think he is?
by EndofMysteries inezekiel 28 talks about the "king of tyre" and in chap 28 starting vs 13 what he is made of.
it calls him a cherub and also lists these stones he was adorned with (here is something interesting....), "every precious stone adorned you:.
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.
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Ezekiel 28 talks about the "King of Tyre" and in Chap 28 starting vs 13 what he is made of
It calls him a cherub and also lists these stones he was adorned with (Here is something interesting....), "every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl." Now those are 9 stones.In Exodus also chap 28 starting vs 13 is how the high priest breastplate was to be made. 12 stones for the 12 tribes, but notice the names and order of the stones. "The first row shall be carnelian, chrysolite and beryl; 18 the second row shall be turquoise, lapis lazuli and emerald; 19 the third row shall be jacinth, agate and amethyst; 20 the fourth row shall be topaz, onyx and jasper."
The stones for rows 1,2, and 4 match 100% the stones on this cherub in Ez.
Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,..... you have desecrated your sanctuariesWhat sanctuaries and what violence? The only sanctuaries I recall are those the priests had set up. And violence and things commanded that in the first chapter of Isaiah the supposed same entity is denying ever commanding, or 2 powers at play?
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Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?
by KillerJones ini was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.
is this 'new light'?
from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.
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"Thus, it is reasonable to conclude that
Jesus now knows when Armageddon will occur.that we are absolute morons because every conclusion we have ever suggested has been proven wrong yet we keep doing it and you are morons for still listening to us"Fixed that for them.
