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  Jehovah's people, Egypt, his sword, Assyria, and his inheritance, Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

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  this scripture alone may not raise a flag in ones mind, combined with many other things i've been noticing, it surely does.

  what are your thoughts on what this means?.

  isaiah 19:24 - in that day israel will come to be the third with egypt and with assyria, namely, a blessing in the midst of the earth, 25 because jehovah of armies will have blessed it, saying: blessed be my people, egypt, and the work of my hands, assyria, and my inheritance, israel.

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  It would be impossible to get the meaning of it, just by the scripture alone. Must see all references and hidden references throughout the bible to uncover it's true meaning, either a message, dark truth, understanding not commonly known, etc. I just made a post actually to show how the answers are in the bible. I was hoping 'maybe' someone already did this one.

  I only have 'guesses' right now, I do know there are other references to this though. With modern technology, a quick way to find some 'closely' related and easy found scriptures, is doing a search for Assyria, Egypt in WT Lib or make sure in that scripture in another book, you have the words as they appear in whichever translation your using and do a search for it.

  Also inheritance, people egypt, etc.

  That is going to be my first step. Then from my other studies and research, other terms Assyria is known as, and Egypt, etc.

  I really did not have a full answer in mind, but letting you or any reading who are now curious too, how I will go about it.
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  PROVE these scriptures unrelated - also, EXPERIMENT: do you see a message here??

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  whether you believe in the bible or not, these are not completely separate books with nothing related.. this is the tip of the iceberg, but i wanted to demonstrate why i believe there is a deep hidden message in the bible, and that its books are linked.. does the bible itself reveal who the king of the north is?

  (the whole world is trying to 'guess' and 'interpret' and treat all prophecies as individual).

  (warning: this could set off a chain reaction and your searching the entire bible linking and getting better understanding of many prophecies ;) ).

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  And I purposely made sure I used least 6 or 7 different books, can add more 'related' to these if need be.
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  PROVE these scriptures unrelated - also, EXPERIMENT: do you see a message here??

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  whether you believe in the bible or not, these are not completely separate books with nothing related.. this is the tip of the iceberg, but i wanted to demonstrate why i believe there is a deep hidden message in the bible, and that its books are linked.. does the bible itself reveal who the king of the north is?

  (the whole world is trying to 'guess' and 'interpret' and treat all prophecies as individual).

  (warning: this could set off a chain reaction and your searching the entire bible linking and getting better understanding of many prophecies ;) ).

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  Whether you believe in the bible or not, these are not completely separate books with nothing related.

  This is the tip of the iceberg, but I wanted to demonstrate why I believe there is a deep hidden message in the bible, and that its books ARE linked.

  Does the bible itself reveal who the King of the North is? (The whole world is trying to 'guess' and 'interpret' and treat all prophecies as individual)

  (warning: this could set off a chain reaction and your searching the entire bible linking and getting better understanding of many prophecies ;) )

  No whether you believe in the bible or not, just as experiment, since I'm not leaving any comments on them, do you see all these scriptures related and what summarized what do you think its saying?

  Duet 28:49 - Jehovah will raise up against you a nation far away, a nation whose tongue you will not understand........51 they will eat the fruit of your domestic........52 they will beseige you within your gates....

  Is 5:26 - and he has raised upa signal to a great nation far away, and he has whistled to it at the extremeity of the earth.....

  Jer 5:15 - Here I am bringing in upon you men a nation from far away, O house of Israel, it is a nation of long ago, a nation whose language you do not know.

  Daniel 11:40 - and the king of the north will storm with chariots and horsemen and with many ships, and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through

  Is 7:17-19 - Jehovah will bring aginst you and against your people and .......the king of Assyria. nd it must occur in that time that Jehovah will whistle for the flies that are at the extremity of the nile canals of Egypt and for the bees that are in the land of Assyria.

  Ezekiel 16:37-40 - here I am collecting all those passionately loving you, I will collect them together against you....and they must bring up agaist you a congregation and pelt you with stones and slaughter you with their swords.

  Ez 17:17 - and by a great military force and by a multitudinious congregation......

  Is 8:7 - And he will certainly come up over all his streambeds and go over all his banks 8 and move on through Judah. He will actually flood and pass over. Up to the neck he will reach. And the outspreading of his wings must occur to fill the breadth of your land, O Im·man′u·el!”

  Daniel 11:10 - 10 “Now as for his sons, they will excite themselves and actually gather together a crowd of large military forces. And in coming he will certainly come and flood over and pass through. But he will go back, and he will excite himself all the way to his fortress.

  Joel 2:1-4 - There is a people numerous and mighty, one like it has not been made to exist from the indefinite past, and after it there will be none again ...

  Numbers 24:24 - 22 But there will come to be one to burn Ka′in down.
  How long will it be till As·syr′i·a will carry you away captive?”
  23 And he carried further his proverbial utterance and went on to say:
  “Woe! Who will survive when God causes it?
  24 And there will be ships from the coast of Kit′tim,
  And they will certainly afflict As·syr′i·a,

  Daniel 11:29 - 29 “At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit′tim, and he will have to become dejected.
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  Are you SEEKING the TRUTH of the bible unaided?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey,.

  i'm hoping some on here, maybe realizing that what the bible really teaches, no church or religion has it.

  your learning and working hard to uncover it's true message.

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  Terry - Yes, I understand that. I've gone into interlinear, different scrolls, etc. When I am narrowed down to a very important scripture, I do look in several different interlinears, from different scrolls, and such.

  I've also gone beyond the bible, also looking into ancient mythology, book of enoch, dead sea scrolls, book of adam and eve, book of jubillees, book of jasher, Quran, etc.

  I am focusing on the bible right now. Here is why I am studying it very seriously..........

  1. It's warning and message is in harmony in a way I've never even seen noticed or taught before.

  For example, - I am NOT adding any comments here, but here are a bunch of RELATED scriptures from many different books of the bible. Gonna make a thread on this, for a different reason.

  Duet 28:49 - Jehovah will raise up against you a nation far away, a nation whose tongue you will not understand........51 they will eat the fruit of your domestic........52 they will beseige you within your gates....

  Is 5:26 - and he has raised upa signal to a great nation far away, and he has whistled to it at the extremeity of the earth.....

  Jer 5:15 - Here I am bringing in upon you men a nation from far away, O house of Israel, it is a nation of long ago, a nation whose language you do not know.

  Daniel 11:40 - and the king of the north will storm with chariots and horsemen and with many ships, and he will certainly enter into the lands and flood over and pass through

  Is 7:17-19 - Jehovah will bring aginst you and against your people and .......the king of Assyria. nd it must occur in that time that Jehovah will whistle for the flies that are at the extremity of the nile canals of Egypt and for the bees that are in the land of Assyria.

  Ezekiel 16:37-40 - here I am collecting all those passionately loving you, I will collect them together against you....and they must bring up agaist you a congregation and pelt you with stones and slaughter you with their swords.

  Ez 17:17 - and by a great military force and by a multitudinious congregation......

  Is 8:7 - And he will certainly come up over all his streambeds and go over all his banks 8 and move on through Judah. He will actually flood and pass over. Up to the neck he will reach. And the outspreading of his wings must occur to fill the breadth of your land, O Im·man′u·el!”

  Daniel 11:10 - 10 “Now as for his sons, they will excite themselves and actually gather together a crowd of large military forces. And in coming he will certainly come and flood over and pass through. But he will go back, and he will excite himself all the way to his fortress.

  Joel 2:1-4 - There is a people numerous and mighty, one like it has not been made to exist from the indefinite past, and after it there will be none again ...

  Numbers 24:24 - 22 But there will come to be one to burn Ka′in down.
  How long will it be till As·syr′i·a will carry you away captive?”
  23 And he carried further his proverbial utterance and went on to say:
  “Woe! Who will survive when God causes it?
  24 And there will be ships from the coast of Kit′tim,
  And they will certainly afflict As·syr′i·a,

  Daniel 11:29 - 29 “At the time appointed he will go back, and he will actually come against the south; but it will not prove to be at the last the same as at the first. 30 And there will certainly come against him the ships of Kit′tim, and he will have to become dejected.
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  Are you SEEKING the TRUTH of the bible unaided?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey,.

  i'm hoping some on here, maybe realizing that what the bible really teaches, no church or religion has it.

  your learning and working hard to uncover it's true message.

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  notverlikely- read it again, I don't got it all figured out, and I'm not offering to teach, again anybody on any of those topics or related, an exchange of scriptures and points, or they can just tell me which scriptures and thoughts they have, I know it will be beneficial.

  BUT, I do got a question notverlikely....... - just within the bible itself, any scriptures you have supporting your statement or just historical references? Even if just that, any you would share I'd like to look at. One mystery so far, is I am trying to understand how or why (unless the translation is wrong and need a better one), would some scriptures and books in the bible, inspired by that God, also accuse/expose him too?

  JeffT - again, read next time, I did not offer to teach, I specifically said I won't. Anyone on those topics, or related, want to see what scriptures and materials they've read and used to compare and answer with.
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  Are you SEEKING the TRUTH of the bible unaided?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey,.

  i'm hoping some on here, maybe realizing that what the bible really teaches, no church or religion has it.

  your learning and working hard to uncover it's true message.

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  Hey,

  I'm hoping some on here, maybe realizing that what the bible really teaches, no church or religion has it. Your learning and working hard to uncover it's true message.

  I am doing that, and looking for others who are as well. Compare notes, and work on some topics together. I just can't imagine with what I'm learning right now, alone, what a small group could achieve.

  AND PLEASE, I am not able to 'teach' at this moment. I'm really just looking for some wholehearted study partners.

  Here is a small list of where I've gone so far(currently learning or getting clearer understanding after finding more scriptures mimicking it), incase your on the same subject or ran into it as well, to see if we are on the same page so to speak, I've also hit many of the 'stumbling' blocks in the bible many hit on their quest which normally then dismiss it as word of man or inaccurate and on many found the reason.....

  - almost the entire old testament contains prophecy and details into the last days

  - the God of Israel may not quite be what the world is lead to believe, or atleast all mentions of him

  - a possible doubleside meaning in Revelation

  - King of North/South, and most prophecies, actually repeated and detailed in many other books of bible

  - Greater indepth details about God, and his son, and heavenly affairs

  - the sealed scroll in Rev, which the 7 thunders spoke of, hidden in the bible

  - hidden prophesies which for some reason, the world has not caught onto the very basic means of locating them and discerning them

  - exact details with what is going to transpire up till the end

  - The 1,000 year reign quite different then had been taught

  - Resurrection different then we had been taught
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  Jehovah's people, Egypt, his sword, Assyria, and his inheritance, Israel

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this scripture alone may not raise a flag in ones mind, combined with many other things i've been noticing, it surely does.

  what are your thoughts on what this means?.

  isaiah 19:24 - in that day israel will come to be the third with egypt and with assyria, namely, a blessing in the midst of the earth, 25 because jehovah of armies will have blessed it, saying: blessed be my people, egypt, and the work of my hands, assyria, and my inheritance, israel.

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  This scripture alone may not raise a flag in ones mind, combined with many other things I've been noticing, it surely does. What are your thoughts on what this means?

  Isaiah 19:24 - In that day Israel will come to be the third with Egypt and with As·syr′i·a, namely, a blessing in the midst of the earth, 25 because Jehovah of armies will have blessed it, saying: “Blessed be my people, Egypt, and the work of my hands, As·syr′i·a, and my inheritance, Israel
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  What hope is there then?

  by sayitsnotso in

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  if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

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  The truth may not be as simple as a relgion laying it out for you. Pray and read the bible, let God show you the truth.
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  Evidently . . .

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this has been a wt buzzword for a long time but has come up in several recent discussions here.

  so, i just had to look it up on the wt library cd-rom.. the word "evidently" appears 1,439 times in the insight books alone.

  that number is staggering considering that the two-volume set is supposed to be comprised of encyclopedic facts.

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  Why don't we post all statements, where they use the phrase 'evidently' aka 'we have no idea what we are talking about'. By the WT, it's 1,839, Awake it's 665, total 4,590 through WT Lib, 2008. "Keep on the watch, for false prophets and false Christs, and here is how you may identify them, by their use of the word, "evidently."

  This one is interesting WT 5/15 1951 (they sure blaber on what they don't know) 8 Were the earthly “other sheep” to experience physical healing to human perfection instanter after Armageddon, then for them to receive the divine mandate to marry, multiply and fill the earth with righteous offspring would mean to bring perfect children into the earth. Such children would not need the benefits of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice and the healing work of his kingdom. Of course, there will be no stillborn babies then, nor any death of mothers in childbirth. But after Armageddon children will not be born in human perfection in fulfillment of God’s mandate then. EVIDENTLY what childbearing will then be authorized will cease before the married couples reach human perfection. So their children will also feel the effects of descent from the sinner Adam and will have to exercise faith and avail themselves of God’s redemptive provisions through his King Jesus Christ. Everlasting life is not possible to man except through him. “The gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.”—Rom. 6:23, NW.

  "Solomon evidently realized that he had to keep his feelings in check. In effect, he kept asking himself: ‘Is what I am planning to say really true or accurate? "

  "We do not know who Archippus was or what his circumstances were, but he had evidently accepted a ministry. If you are a dedicated Christian, you too have accepted a ministry. Are you continuing to watch the ministry in order to fulfill it?"

  "Then he turned his attention to the gathering of the remaining prospective members of his Kingdom government so as to complete the number of 144,000. By the mid-1930’s, that task was evidently well along and many of those responding to the preaching work did not have the desire to go to heaven. "

  "Hence, “the twelve tribes of Israel,” whom those on the heavenly thrones judge, evidently represent the world of mankind who are outside that royal, priestly class, as pictured by the 12 tribes on Atonement Day."

  This interesting, because of the "Angels and Women" or "Seola" book WT promoted in early 1920's, they believed inspired by a fallen angel supposedly by music...............-"The second interesting manner of inspiration was that which accompanied the playing of music. Some may reason that the playing of the harp or musical instrument was in order to quiet and compose the mind of the prophet that he might better receive the impressions of God’s spirit. But EVIDENTLY it was for prophetic illustration, because the harp is symbolically used to represent the means of sounding forth harmoniously, impressively and with more power the message of God. This accompaniment of the harp to prophecy by inspiration is referred to at Psalm 49:3, 4, which reads: “My mouth shall speak of wisdom; and the meditation of my heart shall be of understanding. I will incline mine ear to a parable: I will open my dark saying upon the harp.”

  If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black!!!-----"Those who hold that the Ten Commandments still apply and that the other features of the law arrangement which can no longer be carried out were part of the “ceremonial law” which passed away EVIDENTLY hold so tenaciously to the Decalogue because of fear of what would happen if Christians were without that guide or rule. They fail to consider that God’s laws for his servants differ from time to time. The nation of Israel, for instance, was commanded to use carnal weapons and act as God’s executioner, but Christians are specifically told that their weapons are not carnal.—1 Sam. 15:2, 3; 2 Cor. 10:4, 5.
  But the removal of the Decalogue need arouse no fears or apprehensions. At best it was but a negative approach to righteousness. The law of the Christians is a positive one: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. Do to others as you would have them do to you. (Matt. 7:12; 22:37-40) The goats, in the illustration of the sheep and the goats, were sentenced to destruction not because of breaking any of the negative commandments but because of failure to do good to Christ’s brothers. "

  "“The flock which the Lord was gathering to himself at the time of this parable was not natural Israel, but spiritual Israel. . . . Hence the view that some have taken that we who are of the Gentiles or ‘other sheep’ mentioned are now being brought into the one fold is not correct. . . . EVIDENTLY these ‘other sheep’ mentioned in this parable are those who will become the Lord’s sheep after the present ‘little flock’ shall have been completed.”
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  Identifying the Faithful Slave as the Christ!

  by wannabe in

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  45"who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?

  god has put his wise servant, in charge of all the other servants in his household.

  2he was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as moses was faithful in all god's house.

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  Failed to mention, just like the WT, this important scripture.......

  Luke 12:47-Then that slave that understood the will of his master but did not get ready or do in line with his will will be beaten with many strokes. 48 But the one that did not understand and so did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few. Indeed, everyone to whom much was given, much will be demanded of him; and the one whom people put in charge of much, they will demand more than usual of him.

  It gives 4 paths, faithful, understanding will and not doing it, not understanding will, and evil.

  It's one of the many illustrations, marriage feast, field workers, bridge grooms, etc.