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  Everlasting life on a paradise earth? Unlikely!

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower of january 1st, 2010 p. 22-23 pretends that "all who respond favorably to gods warning and bring their life into harmony with his righteous principles (meaning jehovah's witnesses) will be granted salvation and enjoy everlasting life on a paradise earth.".

  but is it true?.

  astrophysicists say that like other stars of its type, our sun will become a planet-engulfing red giant.

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  oppostate

  It seems 2 Peter 3:10-13 was right about the passing away of this "solar" system

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  NWT

  Yet Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.

  Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought YOU to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah, through which [the] heavens being on fire will be dissolved and [the] elements being intensely hot will melt! But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.

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  NIV

  10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. a

  11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. b That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.
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  How Will The Governing Body Endure?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  forget about witness kids.

  ignore the concerns of 'old-timers' (well, the society pretty much has, anyway).

  my question is: how can the governing body endure it all?.

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  oppostate

  If we look at other religions and their corrupt leadership we may also wonder when something has got to give.

  But yet... Televangelists still rake in the $$$. The Catholic Church still pays out the $$$ to the abused.

  The Amish still dress in 18th century styles, and the Mormons still believe in their pseudo-historical crap.

  People are duped into monetarily supporting religious leaders who make them act and behave in wacky ways.

  Instead of thinking about religious institutions being not-for profit we may well think of them as for-control, and for-power.

  The more power the organization enjoys the more it can withstand. The more powerful the leaders the harder to make them fall.

  The only advantage in bringing them down is that all humans are fallible, (including the Pope), and we, humans, all make mistakes.

  And a series of bad mistakes could take down a powerful organization.
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  Do not vote for Rick Santorum!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html.

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  oppostate

  "I'm tossing my hat in for Obama."

  @FlyingHighNow

  Wow, and it's such a nice hat too! I like the Southwest motif a lot.
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  DO Brown Payne ranks on famous potty mouthed female tennis player who says she's a JW

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at the latest ca in natick ma, district overseer brown w. payne made a comment about a "famous female tennis player who's a sister"... .

  we're told she says she's a jehovah's witness and swears in the tennis court.

  we all have heard about it.

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  oppostate

  Some previous threads about Serena Williams:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/168271/1/Are-Venus-and-Serena-Williams-baptized

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/213350/1/Secret-JW-Serena-Williams-Exposed

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/178174/1/Serena-Williams-Are-you-looking-at-my-Titties-T-shirt

  Rick Santorum would not approve of StarCelebs.com and Mr.Skin's large collection of naughty pics of Serena Williams, (never mind what Bro. Payne would think...)

  http://www.starcelebs.com/celebs/serena_williams.shtml

  http://www.mrskin.com/serena-williams-c11035.html
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  Do not vote for Rick Santorum!

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/rick-santorum-wants-ban-hardcore-pornography-222833811.html.

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  oppostate

  Ohhhhh it's "I am all cool" I thought the nick had to do with "llamas", really, no lie.

  And I was gonna ask ShirleyW if she uses WinAmp...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqKrH0O9yg

  But ...

  I was wrong.

  BTW who's Iamnotcool???

  Are we talking . . .

  Sohodolls?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9TF4iVRGw

  or

  Scott Krippayne?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1471cCpGAFM

  Oh, and BTW...

  Santorum's name reminds me of Latin class in H.S.

  Close enough to "All Saints" (Sanctorum)

  http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/15/santorum-would-vigorously-fight-porn

  "Santorum would 'vigorously' fight porn"

  Makes one wonder... Maybe Iamallcool is right... what else might Santorum do "vigorously". Hmmm.
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  DO Brown Payne ranks on famous potty mouthed female tennis player who says she's a JW

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at the latest ca in natick ma, district overseer brown w. payne made a comment about a "famous female tennis player who's a sister"... .

  we're told she says she's a jehovah's witness and swears in the tennis court.

  we all have heard about it.

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  oppostate

  At the latest CA in Natick MA, District Overseer Brown W. Payne made a comment about a "famous female tennis player who's a sister"...

  "I don't have to tell you her name, right? We're told she says she's a Jehovah's Witness and swears in the tennis court. We all have heard about it. So the next day it's all over the news. And we have people, reporters, calling the Branch asking if it's OK for a Jehovah's Witness to swear in public. You see, how it can bring reproach on Jehovah's name? If a Catholic or a Baptist did it would people be asking? But now we have to be very careful what we say and how we act, because it could bring reproach on Jehovah's name."

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  Doesn't it sound instead like Bro Payne is more concerned about people calling "the Branch" and giving the WT religion a bad name?

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  "Serena Williams was fined a record $82,500 for her tirade at a U.S. Open line judge and could be suspended from that tournament if she has another “major offense” at any Grand Slam in the next two years."

  "Grand Slam administrator Bill Babcock’s ruling was released Monday, and he said Williams faces a “probationary period” at tennis’ four major championships in 2010 and 2011. If she has another “major offense” at a Grand Slam tournament in that time, the fine would increase to $175,000 and she would be barred from the following U.S. Open."

  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34204918/ns/sports-tennis/

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  Serena Williams "fine" moment on video:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCvL0nONMcg

  "LMAO did anyone else hear the "YEAH YOU DID!"? from the fan @ 2:00 after Serena denied threatening her"

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  Steven Unthanks case . . . this might help fill some gaps.

  by sizemik in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was alerted to steven unthanks latest feature article on jwnews.net .

  .. it was posted just a few days ago (11th) and explains a number of things some have puzzled over with regard to australian law, and why things unfolded as they did.. it includes a report compiled by an ex-jw who attended the hearings.. for those that took an interest in the case .

  it might fill in some gaps for you.. it's on the home page and entitled .

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  oppostate

  Hey, Sizemik,

  Thanks for the quotes. Do you know if it's possible to get a transcript of the procedings?

  -- OppO
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  Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

  in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

  they both are undergoing major remodels.

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  oppostate

  From DO Brown W. Payne at last CA in Natick, MA.

  "The work is on-going, we're not looking back, there's Kingdom Halls to renovate, others to sell and to buy new ones"

  "Look at what brothers can accomplish when we work together, look at this beautiful Assembly Hall"

  His high pitched delivery gave me the impression of listening to a Realtor on too much caffeine. He went on telling about Patterson and Upstate NY, mentioning expansion in Branches around the world.

  Then came the accusations. If you call into question the organization's progress you're taking Jehovah's name in vain.

  And the doozy...

  Everyone who desires a higher education degree is seeking prominence for their own name.

  Why not rather do as a young sister did, say no to a full scholarship to a worldly education and pioneer, then quoted the sister saying how happy she is as a pioneed and volunteer at RBC projects working for the Kingdom's interests, by helping in the organization's increase.

  We too should be more concerned about the sanctification of Jehovah's name and not our own.

  There's much to be done and keep busy with. There's no time to waste in worldly pursuits.

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  The costs for this weekend circuit assembly at this "beautiful assembly hall" were $18,000+

  Whatever was left over from last CA, we were told, the elders had voted, and as is the custom, decided that all funds left over would be sent into the Branch for the Worldwide Work: $13,000+

  BTW, Bro. Brown W. Payne reminded us that every Friday before a CA or Special Day, we can volunteer to clean the Assembly Hall so that all the friend can enjoy this "beautiful assembly hall", and this is a work that very much needs to be done and brings praise to God. Aren't we thankful to be able to meet in such a "beautiful assembly hall"? (Unanimous applause from the appreciative "friends").

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  I was thinking right about this time that maybe the mult-imillion Assembly Hall in Barcelona, Spain which was just sold to the United Church of Christ perhaps not as "beautiful" maybe?
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  Kingdom Hall remodel - scam

  by Dagney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.

  in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.

  they both are undergoing major remodels.

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  oppostate

  Our local hall underwent a renovation 2 years ago. Does this mean that the society owns the KH?

  It's a bit technical but this is what goes on:

  The congregation gets a loan from the WTS's Kingdom Hall building fund to which all congregations contribute.

  As part of the deal the congregation accepts that the RBC will take over the remodeling.

  Also if there isn't a phrase in the congregation holding ownership of the KH that the WTS gets the goods if the congregation disolves or merges then the congregations incorporation charter gets ammended accordingly.

  The congregation's incorporation bylaws must state that the officers of the incorporated congregation are those persons currently serving as elders in the congregation, and the WTS is the one who appoints elders to serve in the congregation.

  One benefit to the WTS is that the actual value of the building and property is tied up in the local congregation's incorporation until they decide they want to liquidate it.

  And the best part is that it doesn't cost the WTS a single cent, everything resulted from donations, yet they have ultimate ownership whenever it suits them.
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  Steven Unthank: What do we really know?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.

  my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.

  bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.

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  oppostate

  I found the photo source for the pencil drawing. Briscott (Brian) used a photo by Islandtime (Viktoria) as the source for his pencil drawing and says he modified color etc. Notice below that Islandtime says "No children were harmed in the making of this image by the way":

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  Cry by *Briscott

  From a picture Fix You by Islandtime . colour pencil. Changed the colouring a bit

  TinEye.com reports it is found in 3 other sites beyond this original...

  http://islandtime.deviantart.com/art/Fix-You-100999056?q=gallery%3Aislandtime%2F157749&qo=64

  

  Fix You by *islandtime

  Photography / People & Portraits / Expressive

  ©2008-2012 *islandtime

  Tears stream down your face...when you lose something you can't replace.
  
  From 'Fix You' Coldplay
  
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  No children were harmed in the making of this image by the way.

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  http://www.tineye.com/search/678bbff9ec4f40fa1e2b8cb627651bff317fedfb/?pluginver=chrome-1.1

  JPEG, 800x531, 51.2 KB

  3 Results

  Searched over 2.0907 billion images in 2.585 seconds.

  for file: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs35/i/2008/291/7/8/Fix_You_by_islandtim...

  These results expire in 72 hours.

  TinEye is free to use for non-commercial purposes.

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