Posts by oppostate

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I too have been charged with apostasy! Stunned.

by FinchAndWeston in

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my wife and i got a letter sent to me stating we are being called before a judical hearing to discuss allegations of apostasy!

we haven't gone to the meeting in 5 years.

are the jw's on a witchhunt lately?

oppostate

Here's a DA letter that was posted on JWN some time ago. What do you think of it? Would it help? Would the hounders get off your back if they received something like this?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/219251/1/Letter-of-DA-from-attorney-to-Elders-becomes-gossip-fodder-Society-Elders-culpable

This law firm has been retained by "X" to remove his/her good name
from your roster and all records on account of his/her wishes to no
longer be a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion. Per request
of my client, this letter will serve as "X's" formal notification of
his/her intent.
It is of great concern that it is your common practice to make formal
announcements of this sort public in an effort to stop family and
friends from ever associating with him/her again, despite the fact
s/he desires this decision for his/her own person only. With this
concern it is of great importance that you understand defamation of
character is a serious offence punishable under both state and federal
law. Therefore it is this firm's demand that any public or private
discussion that demeans the good name of "X" either in the near or
distant future will be met with legal action.
As with all cases, our goal is satisfaction of both parties if at all
possible. We trust you understand that dissatisfaction for our client
can only be experienced by purposeful, hurtful and unnessary action on
your part.

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Any other ABENAKI tribe Native American descendants here on JWN?

by oppostate in

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it's been my experience that many witnesses i've known are of native american background and eventually they phase out of the wt's grasp, but not without going through some hard times and deep depression.

several dear brothers i know are out, some faded, one inactive, all going through the same patterns.

and why does it seem more prevalent among those with a percentage of native american descent?.

oppostate

It's been my experience that many Witnesses I've known are of Native American background and eventually they phase out of the WT's grasp, but not without going through some hard times and deep depression. Several dear brothers I know are out, some faded, one inactive, all going through the same patterns. Why? And why does it seem more prevalent among those with a percentage of Native American descent?

Are there any other ABENAKI tribe Native American descendants here on JWN... and if so what's been your experience?

If you are descended of another tribe or personally know of some please share your experience.

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Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

by Simon in

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(the david bowie song in case you're wondering).

there seems to be a lot of talk and speculation about the changes that are coming at the next district conventions.

there have certainly been quite a few articles and talks (esp.

oppostate

Yes!

The nu-lite is that the end of this system is now no longer "imminent" it has now been raised to "immediate" in God's timetable according to WT calculations.

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Since the early WTCD doesn't have older publication

by thecrushed in

i didn't ask why they don't because their own literature makes them out as horrible frauds!

my question is how do you get a hold of stuff like the "finished mystery" "the divine plan of the ages" and other pertinent false doctrine that has been swept under the rug and locked in the coffers at wt headquarters?

i feel so helpless because if i show my wife info on the net she will just write it off as apostate and altered like we have all been trained to think.

oppostate

This web site has a lot of the old publications in English and some in Spanish including WTs and Awakes.

http://bibliotecajw.blogspot.com/2011/11/antiguas-publicaciones-de-los-testigos.html

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Laptop (?) being used in field service - July 15 WT

by Gayle in

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wt out on jw.org now,,shows front page laptop being used on field service call along with sign language.. will jws soon be bringing a laptop for all door to door presentations in the future?

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oppostate

The ASL groups use DVD players in sought out door to door service. Not Notebook PCs.

Rather than a Notebook PC the device in question in that photo is more like one of their DVD players.

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Menlo Park KH discussion in the WTS' eyes

by Magi in

after reading much on this scandal, we know that many if not all jws will not go out of there way to read up on this info.

does anyone know what the rumor in the congregations are about this topic?

i'm sure alot of them are just taken back by fellow witnesses taking the society to court, bringing reproach on god's name.

oppostate

One of the CO suggested incorporation bylaws changed in our KH where I served included wording that those officers of the corporation are such persons as are actively serving as elders in the congregation.

Thus if you resign or get booted as an elder you'd no longer be considered an officer in the corporation that owns the KH.

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The annointed remnant figure rising - a question

by jambon1 in

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having been out of the loop for a while on here, it dawned on me that the figure of memorial partakers has risen substantially from when i was a jw.. i think i bowed out at around 8500 in 2006.. can anyone briefly explain what the main reasons for this increase are and if it is ever discussed among jw's because if i remember correctly, the figure should be going down, not up.. thanks.. j.

oppostate

They need new anointed ones and the 1935 ceiling lifted in order to make room for the overlapping generations theory.

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So wonderful little [...] and other punctuation

by Lady Lee in

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a couple of days ago i read a thread on here where some people were questioning the authenticity of something posted.

hey for a group of people who have been conned and lied to i get that we are a suspicious bunch.

then yesterday i tried reading something that started by posting a quote from a wt.

oppostate

Hey LL, I'll give the square brackets a try in my WTS quote:

"Evidently..." [I wish the WTS would stay away from using that word without giving real evidence in support of what they publish] "Reasonably..." [I also wish that they hadn't taken the square brackets out in their latest revision of the NWT, you know the nice grey leather and silver edged versions with expanded appendices that only traveling overseers and their wifes and GB members and their wives are able to get right now] "no doubt" [these new Bibles may be mass produced if the GB feels they'll get enough donations if they get the R&F to covet the hierarchy's new and snazzy blinged out editions of the NWT].

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Is this going to be the undoing of the WTS?

by tootired2care in

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oppostate

It's hard to say... I think it may put more stress on those with a Christian conscience to help needy ones.

But I can also see the uber-pioneers and better-than-thou's pulling a Korban phrase and excusing themselves from helping those in need because they are too busy in service to be able to lend their time and effort.

The folks who won't help are those who'd probably end up as elders and their wives. Those who are just too meek and too submissive are those who'll most likely end up taking care of the elderly's needs out of Christian love and kindness, with the added hounding reminders of the "elder" class.

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