Posts by oppostate

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Similarity of new released book cover and CoC cover graphics, coincidence?

by oppostate in

if you look at the cover of the new history book of the wt, with it's regal purple cover of a cloudy mountain range like graphic... and.

compare it with the english cover of crisis of conscience do you see some similarity?

http://www.raymondfranz.fr/index.php?language=en.

oppostate

If you look at the cover of the new history book of the WT, with it's regal purple cover of a cloudy mountain range like graphic... and

compare it with the English cover of Crisis of Conscience do you see some similarity?

http://www.raymondfranz.fr/index.php?language=EN

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i was reading at foro extj a mention of a name change that's been in the works for months it seems.. the wt at jw.org in spanish is calling the governing body "consejo central" without capitalizing the name.. here's the spanish news release item about guy pierce passing away:.

http://www.jw.org/es/noticias/comunicados-de-prensa/por-region/mundiales/fallece-guy-pierce-consejo-central/.

the english news release is at:.

oppostate

I was reading at FORO EXTJ a mention of a name change that's been in the works for months it seems.

The WT at JW.org in Spanish is calling the Governing Body "consejo central" without capitalizing the name.

Here's the Spanish news release item about Guy Pierce passing away:

http://www.jw.org/es/noticias/comunicados-de-prensa/por-region/mundiales/fallece-guy-pierce-consejo-central/

The English news release is at:

http://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/world/guy-pierce-governing-body-member-dies/

Now compared to the English news item is there really a need to say "consejo central" in order to explain the term Cuerpo Gobernante?

Or is this leading to a renaming of the WT Oligarchs?

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What now?

by thedog1 in

i don't know if it has been a good thing or a bad thing to have found this site.

i stumbled on it about a year ago as i mentioned in previous posts.

it has opened my eyes to so many things, but right now all is confusion.

oppostate

Now, if you believe in God, then put your faith in the ransom, the redemptive value, of Christ's sacrifice and

follow his teachings. Share with others your hope in him and his promises of everlasting life in the Kingdom of the heaven.

If you've lost your faith in God then that may not mean much to you, but you can treat others with the kindness and

respect that fellow human beings should have for one another realizing we all have feelings and aspirations for a better

life, for safety, for continued learning and the hope of peace among equals in the human race.

Personally, my fading away from the WT is bringing me closer to God and Christ, I feel like I've rejoined humanity at

large, which I learned to appreciate from reading Ray Franz's books. And... although a believer in Christ I can find

empathy and compassion for others no matter what faith they have or how different or similar their culture or background

may be from mine.

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The Six Largest Chinese Car Makers (by revenue)

by fulltimestudent in

from fortune magazine as quoted in china daily:.

no 6, guangzhou automobile industry group.

fortune global 500 2014 rank: 483. revenue: $24,144.8 million.

oppostate

@DFTS who said "why is this being posted on JWN?

Because it's under the forum directory of:

News & World Events

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Jim Penton's beloved wife Marilyn died today.

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

her suffering is finally over.

marilyn has been battling cancer for about three years and at times it looked like she would win.

but in the last few months the cancer spread.

oppostate

I'm so sorry to hear this sad news as well.

I tried sending an email to Jim but the address I have bounced.

Could someone send me a PM with a newer address for him?

I remember meeting them a few years back at a Christian

Believer's Conference in Massachusetts, and I was and still

am very fond of them. My sympathy and condolences to Jim.

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Roll call of those of us stuck in for our spouse or whos spouse is still in!

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i just wanted to get a feel for how many here have awakened to ttatt but are still carrying on some jw activities to pacify them and keep the peace.

also trying to hear from those who have left, but whose spouse has stayed in the wt and in the marriage.. for me it comes down to my own mental anguish.

i am mentally tortured by attending the meetings, yet i feel compelled to because my wife would kill me with her personality if i had her drag 2 small girls by herself there.

oppostate

My wife continues to be very loyal to the WTB&T$ although I've tried sharing TTATT with her several times.

These times when I push for some critical thinking usually result in big blowouts followed by make-up sessions that often involve strenuously involved and hot marital relations.

I wish the blowouts weren't part of the equation.

I love my wife and do not want to lose her to the WT.

I've gotten some feel good revenge by sending eye-opening TTATT web page links to elders, pioneers, publishers and especially those newly studiying whose email addresses I can get my hands on.

Of course I get an unassuming and theocratic user names like Pioneer2012@... .com or TheGoodNews4you@... .com etc. with one of the free email providers.

If you share a computer with your wife at home it's always good to have separate usernames and password them.

Keep at it, if you can help anyone else open their eyes to TTATT

then being stuck in but acting like an undercover TTATT agent to help others may bring you some satisfaction.

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What is the Biblical Leadership Model for Christian Communities?

by fulltimestudent in

nb: i'm using the word 'community' in lieu of the word 'church' or congregation.. --------------.

i know what i used to believe about organisational leadership in a community of christians.

1 timothy ch.3 was firmly fixed in my mind.

oppostate

Paul's Idea of Community: The Early House Churches in Their Cultural Setting, by Robert J. Banks.

http://www.amazon.com/Pauls-Idea-Community-Churches-Cultural/dp/0801045541/ref=tmm_pap_title_0

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Fading, Stopping Meetings, DA or DF'ing, Thoughts on Getting the Hell Out Of There

by OnTheWayOut in

so i read some threads about why someone remains a ministerial servant or elder, or why they are still active jw's.

others are telling stories about how they cut back slowly, and some of them got removed as ms/elder/pioneer or whatever.

yet others tell of how they just up and stopped going one day.

oppostate

Once the invitation to appear before a judicial committee for apostasy was given me,

a PDF attached letter emailed to the three bros in the committee and the COBOE worked

very nicely so they don't bother me anymore. In other posts I've described what the letter

said and how I presented what future actions would follow as consequence of whatever

actions they sought against me.

My wife is still very loyal to the WTB&T$, so I also made sure that anything said to her without

my being present would be reason to involve higher ups in their hierarchy and my taking judicious

and stern action against them individually and as a body for slander.

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reading COC for the first time

by This is my tigersuit in

oppostate

@Timt

My first reaction when reading CoC was shock and disbelief, but it settled in that I'd been wrong and had ignored so many warnings from family who aren't JWs and they'd been right all along about the "cultish" behavior of the WT religion.

What really did it for me was learning about the double standards, Malawi/Mexico, and the unnecessary suffering people in Malawi went through for following this Publishing Corporation as if it was God's Channel on Earth as they claimed.

Also the treatment of Ed Dunlap made the situation very personal. It exposed the lack of Christian love and fellow feeling among the Bethel bigshots and their blindly following hierarchy.

Continue reading, Timt, and please post your reactions as you progress reading the book. I'd be interested in comparing insights.

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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

by 88JM in

was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

oppostate

I just sent in a complaint and requested a retraction and correction.

I also suggested that they may have a researcher who is biased and is promoting outdated and disproved chronological figures crafted by 19th century religionists to support their hopes of the world ending in the last century.

It would be best, I wrote, to present the view most currently held by scholars who are well researched in this field and give the date of 20 years later, that of 587 BCE.

Let's see what comes of it.