I'm wondering if this topic is visible. . .
It seems to have left folks speechless.
Kudos on researched quotes, much appreciated.
the watchtower june 2015 (bullshit).
the latest watchtower (online at j-dub dot argh!
) features a hilarious article.
I'm wondering if this topic is visible. . .
It seems to have left folks speechless.
Kudos on researched quotes, much appreciated.
since the day pope francis told catholics to stop obsessing about abortion and gay marriage, and get to the business of helping the poor, i have been afraid for his life.. in one statement, he pierced 2 sacred cows of catholic and evangelical thought, and he has not stopped.. he has lectured the world on real evils, mentioning capitalism in particular as a system that has left billions in desperate poverty.. he has now said that global warming threatens the world, particularly the poor, and is calling on the world to change it's lifestyle to save the planet.. i can't remember ever, in my entire life, when someone in as powerful a position as the pope, actually speaks out loud and in public the actual truth of the world's environment and calling the world to action, without regard for the consequences.. hard line catholics don't like him; fox news hates him, one pundit telling him to leave science to the scientists (of course, fox news doesn't leave global warming to the scientists) and today this from greg gutfield, fox news:.
"the most dangerous person on the planet is someone who is seeking strange new respect from their adversaries.
and that is what the pope is doing, said gutfeld, implying that the recognition of the existence of man-made climate change is fundamentally at odds with catholicism.
an awake!tm article about shunning spouses.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201306/the-silent-treatment/#?insight[search_id]=f6240b1c-2a33-4ac9-a50b-f2130feaa43e&insight[search_result_index]=0 .
apparently it's retaliation and manipulation.. i wonder what they think about shunning df'd or da'd victims?.
WT speaking out of both sides of their collective rancid grease traps! Slick as ever, do as I say not as I do, these hypocrites are always spewing counsel they aren't willing to follow themselves.
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Old thread on this silent treatment of shunning:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250096/silent-treatment-aka-shunning
my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.
i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.
i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!
as RichardHaley said, incognito mode on Chrome works pretty good to keep your browsing history clear.
since starting to wake up, i can't help notice how so many talks emphasise preaching, increasing your hours, pioneering etc...with a hefty load of guilt on the side.. i always noticed the guilt, but now i'm noticing how talks that seem to start out on another issue always seem to come back to hours!
visit talk seemed to start out about persecution, trusting in jehovah etc...but the main thrust in the end was, 'do more hours, pioneer, don't get an education or pursue a career, don't get distracted, hooray for the pioneers!
if you dont do more hours you will be 'the sort that shrink back to destruction'.
Tired of service? Go out in service.
As illogical as the counsel above sounds, it's exactly what WT trained elders are supposed to provide to the over-worked, abusively coerced r&f publishers.
The WT religion sucks out the life and joy from people that fall into its clutches. And if you are exhausted they offer no refreshment, you're just like dead to them.
this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.
i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.
and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".
- The highest natural adult male signing voice or the person having that voice.
Are they then asking all the JW males to sing at the highest of the ordinary adult male range. Maybe? I'm thinking BeeGees or Pewie Herman, maybe even Tiny Tim... "Tiptoe through the tulips..."
What a bunch of micromanaging fanatics, they're just like the pharisees, and the WT rag is their Talmud. Now I'm thinking of the Fiddler on the Roof... "If I were a rich man, I'd smoke a doobee doobee doobee doo all day long doobee doobee doo if I weren't a working man!" That's not really the way it goes is it? "Tradition, tradition!"
i did not write this piece.
i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.
hope some of you enjoy it too.
It's written by μελέτη βίβλον
http://meletivivlon.com/2015/06/13/morning-worship-part-the-slave-is-not-1900-years-old/
contemplating the watchtowers attempt at washing away 100 years of cult stink, i had another thought.
the wbt$ could be transitioning from a growth model to a retention model, particularly in 1st world nations.
the signs as i see them are:.
Interesting OP. I do think they want to beef up retention rates, with so much bleeding out of young talent and strength, it would make sense to me if they are making efforts to keep the next generation within the Org.
However, I think they are also aware that they cannot succeed if their efforts are mostly coercive. They've not given a $h¡t about losing members who were able to think for themselves and live successful and comfortable lives. Coercion just drives these sort of people away.
All they'll be left is with followers who can't think for themselves and don't live successful lives and are uncomfortably stuck in low paying jobs. These folks may be easier to control, but they require more maintenance, more attention, more commendation, more guiding, more counselling and even more reprimanding, The final outcome may likely be toxic and untenable for the WTS.
sir david eady sitting as emeritus high court judge, quite likely in court 13 of the high court in the queens bench division at 10:30am tomorrow will hear an appeal against the decision of master leslie refusing to strike out a claim from mr otuo against an elder, j morley of the wimbledon congregation in england.
watch tower seeks to assert that the repetition of the allegation of fraud by the said elder at a meeting to hear the reinstatement application of the claimant in the presence of three other elders can not amount to publication sufficient to found a claim in slander.
further, the occasion should attract qualified privilege and as such even if the words were defamatory of otuo, the defendants should be protected in law by the privilege in so as far they acted in good faith.
I'd be interested in links to read more about this case.