Posts by oppostate

The Bible Students have quite a few different offshoots depending on when they separated from the WT.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/62324/daughters-tower?page=1

In my estimation from having attended a few of their conventions is that the Berean Bible Students and those of the New Covenant Bible Student offshoot seem the most un-cultish.

You can tell the difference plainly between two congregations in Chigago,

the Russell following Chicago Bible Students http://chicagobible.org/

and the non-Russell following Berean Bible Students http://www.bbschurch.org/

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Need a good laugh?

by FadeToBlack in

if you could use a good laugh please have a look at page 7 of the july 2015 awake.

my wife leaves the latest issues on my pillow when she gets back from her meetings.

i often scan through them looking for nonsense.

oppostate

This person on the canoe is being very unsafe.

Instead of a power-red-tie he should be wearing a life-vest or some sort of flotation device (maybe even featuring a JWorg logo on it).

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the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

oppostate

Simon, just tell us how you really feel.

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Bethel Meeting at Regional Convention

by MrTheocratic in

i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.

i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.

well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.

oppostate

If Scientology can survive, how will the WTS not do so?

The appeal to disaffected folks in society will be the same if not stronger in the future, I think. The WT religion has had 100+ years of refining their recruiting techniques and their controlling practices.

But they know they need to change with the times. So far they've been quite adept at changing doctrine to fit their needs.

The JW,org flashy enticement is a way to reach out to the next generation, the tech savvy, smart-phone-in-hand crowd.

The older generation is passing away (and so is it's desires of living forever in a paradise earth without having to die). The WT is moving on and leaving these folks behind.

My feeling is it will definitely be (and already shows signs to be) a different WT religion--more techy, more flashy, less demanding of Bible knowledge and more loyal to the hierarchy.

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BORG running low on $$$??

by fader77 in

dear brothers:.

re: personal literature supply.

reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released.

oppostate

What they seem to object to is current publishers having in their personal libraries the books that may remind them how WT doctrine is as fleeting as a fart that after all the noisy hoopla that accompanies it, it makes a big stink and blows this way and that and nobody wants it. Except you force others to put up with the stench. That's how old WT literature is.

Since...

It's obviously ok for publishers to place old publications, even those including outdated doctrines, with the public. Countless times the KM's would run a monthly campaign to place "old 192 page books" still in stock in the literature counters, even 1960's books that delved into Ezekiel, Daniel, and Revelations we would be encouraged to place in service although much of this information was seen as "old light" and no longer part of official doctrine.

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W 15 july - members of others religions not destroyed???

by paradisebeauty in

please tell me what do you understand from this quote that is taken from w july 2015, the article your deliverance is close paragraph 5.. i understand that not all members of other religions will be destroyed at armageddon.

i talked to a jw.

he says he understands differently: they will not be destroyed when the babylon the great will be destroyed but they will be destroyed in armageddon.

oppostate

No. Many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.

CO Scotty Henry took great delight in asking the group meeting for field service if the WT answer in question about others than JW's surviving the Big A included people who are currently living. The Answer was NO, he pointed out the wording savoring the double speak. He loved pointing out how the WT gave such a "clever" answer.

Too bad for the householders that refused taking the literature, and said no to the Organization. In his explanation they had it coming for ignoring the WT.

What a WT tool this little man full of theocratic theatrics really is!

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WATCHTOWER AND BULLSHIT VIEWS ON SCIENCE (THE WATCHTOWER JUNE 2015)

by TerryWalstrom in

the watchtower june 2015 (bullshit).

the latest watchtower (online at j-dub dot argh!

) features a hilarious article.

oppostate

I'm wondering if this topic is visible. . .

It seems to have left folks speechless.

Kudos on researched quotes, much appreciated.

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This is what leadership looks like

by Pistoff in

since the day pope francis told catholics to stop obsessing about abortion and gay marriage, and get to the business of helping the poor, i have been afraid for his life.. in one statement, he pierced 2 sacred cows of catholic and evangelical thought, and he has not stopped.. he has lectured the world on real evils, mentioning capitalism in particular as a system that has left billions in desperate poverty.. he has now said that global warming threatens the world, particularly the poor, and is calling on the world to change it's lifestyle to save the planet.. i can't remember ever, in my entire life, when someone in as powerful a position as the pope, actually speaks out loud and in public the actual truth of the world's environment and calling the world to action, without regard for the consequences.. hard line catholics don't like him; fox news hates him, one pundit telling him to leave science to the scientists (of course, fox news doesn't leave global warming to the scientists) and today this from greg gutfield, fox news:.

"the most dangerous person on the planet is someone who is seeking strange new respect from their adversaries.

and that is what the pope is doing, said gutfeld, implying that the recognition of the existence of man-made climate change is fundamentally at odds with catholicism.

oppostate

He's got cojones. Unlike the whiny Fox News political eunuchs with their ineffectual, head-in-the-sand stance towards climate change.

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Awake! The silent treatment

by punkofnice in

an awake!tm article about shunning spouses.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201306/the-silent-treatment/#?insight[search_id]=f6240b1c-2a33-4ac9-a50b-f2130feaa43e&insight[search_result_index]=0 .

apparently it's retaliation and manipulation.. i wonder what they think about shunning df'd or da'd victims?.

oppostate

WT speaking out of both sides of their collective rancid grease traps! Slick as ever, do as I say not as I do, these hypocrites are always spewing counsel they aren't willing to follow themselves.

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Old thread on this silent treatment of shunning:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250096/silent-treatment-aka-shunning