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  Regional Kickbacks to WTS for Conventions

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i guess tax payers get to subsidize the conventions, who knew!.

  https://user-cb2rbzy.cld.bz/jehovah-s-witnesses-2017-regional-convention/4.

  no wonder they really push people to book through the congregation rather than privately, directly - it's all about the rebates!.

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  oppostate

  They also get complimentary rooms or upgrades to executive suites for each 40 or 50 rooms they manage to sell to the dubs.

  I can attest to that.
  

  It's a common practice as I learned when "helping" with overseeing the rooming dept. at Conventions.

  These rooms go to visiting oligarchs from Bethel or any other heavy who's giving a talk.

  But would free rooms be given to a single parent mom with little children. Nope. In such cases you track down her local elders and make it plain they need to see to that getting resolved or else.
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  Shunning

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

  i know people who have done exactly this.

  you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

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  You have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

  Hah-hah-hah-hah-hah! You really crack me up. Is it a sin to not believe that the FDS is the Governing Body?

  If so then all previous JW's to the "new light" should have been considered sinners for apostate thinking.

  I think it is a worse sin (than many that will get you DF'ed and shunned)
  to put your faith on what a few fickle pharisaical frumps in New York tell you to believe and lead your life by.

  Yes, the real sin is you, ABeliever, are defending these never-right nincompoop nutters.
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  Will Governing Body stop preaching work?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at this year's annual meeting (2016), david "mark" sanderson asks the audience the question, "are you determined to keep on preaching with us until we say the work is completed?

  " to which they respond with applause.

  do you think that stopping the preaching work will ever be a part of the gb's long range plan?

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  If he said it that way it's a definite case of Trumpitis.

  With all the thousands of hours producing but a trickle of new converts, to stop the requirement to knock on doors and stand by carts and show videos from JW.0rg would mean that the little trickle would dry up pretty fast.

  They could always go lower and lower on the age at which to allow kids to get baptized but even then the retention rate would still be awful and more and more born-ins would be disowned at DF'ing when they wised up later in life.

  Nah, I don't think they'll be calling the "preaching work" anytime soon. It doesn't seem in the GoBo's best interest to do so.
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  Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

  are the ones that got df more out spoken?

  or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

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  Why the different outcome? Are the ones that got DF more out spoken?

  Yup. I feel that's exactly it.

  They hate open dissension.

  If you speak out you're in a whack-a-mole situation.

  
  
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  Steven Unthank and his work.

  by WHATSGOINGON in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi everyone, .

  i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..

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  yeah, something to the effect that it was a theological construct and not a legal entity.
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  What do you think .

  by smiddy in

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  2. humour

  what is the one thing a male escapes from,then spends the rest of his life trying to get back into ..

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  A womb
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  Geoffrey Jackson, Deuteronomy 18:22

  by Spoletta in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this has been commented on, but while reading a discussion, deuteronomy 18:22 was mentioned.

  i looked it up, and was struck by its connection to a remark made by geoffrey jackson during his arc testimony.

  the gist of the scripture is that if a prophet declares something is from god and it doesn't come true, he is speaking presumptuously, and should not be feared.

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  Jackson must have been coached by the wt lawyers on what to say and how
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  What is life

  Baby don't hurt me no more

  Oops that's what is love

  Sorry
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  UK 'blood' court case re:2yo

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi orphancrow.

  thought you might be interested in the following, brief, court case summary.

  high court family division - 18 november 2016an nhs foundation hospital v mr and mrs t. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/ewhc/fam/2016/2980.html.

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  Gee, that is just too bad concerning use of profanity.

  But in the case of elders and GoBo members I would call it well warranted.

  Enablers and promoters of the blood transfusion policy that has resulted in so many needless deaths deserve to be called those insults and more, in my opinion,
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  EXPOSED: The insular world of Israeli Jehovah's Witnesses

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's been discussion on this forum about the wt's preaching campaigns in israel - here's an interesting article with pictures.

  a rare glimpse into the insular world of israeli jehovah's witnesses.

  the state refuses to recognize them and they have been victims of harassment.

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  oppostate

  Looks like one has to have a login password to read the article.

  Must be quite secretive reporting... :-p