Posts by agonus

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What are your favourite movie lines/quotes????

by karter in

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friends

''well there's one thing you got ta ask yourself punk....you felling lucky...well do ya punk".....clint eastwood dirty harry.. "it's life jim but not as we know it" capt kirk star treck..

agonus

She's a replicant... isn't she?

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Banks never show the tellers what counterfeit money looks like? Its truly a lie!

by life is to short in

i have been meaning to post this for awhile and i just came across this example yet again with a jw it is so frustrating because it is just not true!.

i so clearly remember assemblies and talks where this point was brought out over and over, that banks teach their teller only what real money looks like so they will know the feel and touch of it, that banks never give their telles counterfeit but only real money so then when a counterfeit comes through they can catch it easily because they know what the real thing looks like so well.

it is even in the bible teach book that was printed in 2005.. none of it is true.. when my husband and i left bethel in 1994 i was working at two jobs all the time to try to make it, finally i got a job as a bank teller.

agonus

Plus, there's the old problem (which seems to railroad a lot of WT reasoning) of the prior conclusion. You pretty much have to already start with the assumption that This Is The Truth in order for that illustration to work. You don't need to examine counterfeit religions to recognize The True One? OK. So how do I know what The True Religion looks like? Because We're The True Religion. Oh, I see. Well how do I know you're The True Religion and not a counterfeit when I have nothing to compare it against because you just told me not to examine others because they're counterfeit? Er... Because We're The True Religion.

There is almost ALWAYS an element of circular logic to practically every important teaching of the WT. You just can't get around it!

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Banks never show the tellers what counterfeit money looks like? Its truly a lie!

by life is to short in

i have been meaning to post this for awhile and i just came across this example yet again with a jw it is so frustrating because it is just not true!.

i so clearly remember assemblies and talks where this point was brought out over and over, that banks teach their teller only what real money looks like so they will know the feel and touch of it, that banks never give their telles counterfeit but only real money so then when a counterfeit comes through they can catch it easily because they know what the real thing looks like so well.

it is even in the bible teach book that was printed in 2005.. none of it is true.. when my husband and i left bethel in 1994 i was working at two jobs all the time to try to make it, finally i got a job as a bank teller.

agonus

The problem with this illustration is that the U.S. Mint (or your local analogue) is an organization sponsored/run by the U.S. Government for the express purpose of producing currency, and there is only ONE U.S. Mint - there are not several competing state-sponsored currency production centers. Religion doesn't work this way in most free countries - all registered churches are considered "legitimate" though their beliefs may vary - there is no official state religion, and, unlike the WT, many churches do not consider other churches "deficient" or "counterfeit". Plus, religion is an intangible - it's not a quantifiable commodity like currency, and "religious truth" is entirely subjective. If there was an appropriate analogue to this poor illustration, wouldn't the Bible be considered the "currency" of Christianity, and if so, wouldn't the Roman Catholic Church be actually closer to the U.S. Mint than the Watchtower?

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1914: Still Important to Watchtower in 2012

by leavingwt in

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98 years later, the 1914 date is still important to the watchtower organization.. .

below is a screenshot of a portion of page 19 from the may 15, 2012 watchtower magazine.. .

agonus

The centennial of 1914 is less than 2 years away. Will the JW leadership:

1) Highlight the significance of 2014, hoping it'll reenergize the flock (it's been 100 years since Jesus ascended his throne, the end must be really REALLY close now)?

2) Reconfigure their theology (1914 was an important year but we misunderstood its significance)?

3) Say absolutely nothing remotely unusual, drawing no attention whatsoever to the date, hoping most Dubs are too brain-dead to notice.

Guess which one my money's on?

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Please keep our buddy SD-7 in your thoughts (and prayers)!

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

sd-7 texted me today.

his wife is in labor, has had some complications and is having an emergency c-section.

he asked me to spread the word to the folks on jwn.

agonus

Congratulations SD-7! :-D IMHO a baby is always the best gift imaginable. Would love to see pics!

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What does the WT have to say about transgender people?

by LunaFing in

jw
friends

i have wondered about this for a long time.

what does the bible have to say about it if at all?.

agonus

I was hoping someone would catch that. I mean, I'm reading the thing and thinking, "Wait a minute... An all-male Paradise... That sounds kind of like..."

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